42 replies to this topic

[voodoomau5]

I bet all the same things were said when £35 jackpots came out, blah blah blah end of the industry and that.................bollocks:rolleyes:

[Sparkz]

i will be honest they look good and so do the red gaming machines but u will only see these in pubs as if u put these next to a £500 jackpot machine £1 a spin no one would play them so its a shame but i think this could be the end of machines as we know it there will be no going and having a few pound for fun anymore just people spending everything they have looking for the big win its a sad sad time in my eyes thank god for this site

yeh i'll 2nd that,

often when i play machines im in the pub/club or arcade, usually i get my drink/pint, see how much change i have then maybe have a go on a 10p or 25p a spin machine, usually i could be playing on it for 20 mins with a few £'s, and either walk away winning money, or walk away losing but know iv had a nice 20 mins play.

at the moment i love playing 10p a spin machines because as mentioned i get longer playing time before losing but with all these £500, £250 and £75 jackpot machines its really going to prevent me playing...

as you rightfully say if these machines take over all the pubs/arcades/clubs its no longer going to be a few £'s for fun, but more people walking in with 30 £1's aiming to win big. Certainly if this was the case i would have to break into £10 notes to get change for the machines instead of using a few £ change i have in my pocket, which i wouldnt be happy to do just for a few spins

[FruitBash]

Just like Sparkz says, if these machines are £1 a go then instantly the "I'll just chuck my change in from my pint" brigade won't play the machine, and I'm not sure how many hardcore gamblers go to pubs to play machines? Don't they just go to the arcade or to service stations?

[manky]

im hoping they dont take over .... as someone said earlier .. all they do now is grab as much from the punter as quickly as possible now . once jackpot has payed out they will go as flat as hell for ages i bet .

[dingleclaret]

just been playing an al murray 70 pound jackpot 25p/50p/£1 stakes all paid £70 jackpot but the bigger stakes was red cash and features

[fruitfreak123123]

Played a few of these £70 jp machines yesterday.

Seemed a bit pointless playing the £1/spin on some of the machines - £10 gone in no time with the best offer on a board being £2.40. May as well have stuck with 50p play.

Other machines slightly better. Red gaming machine (can't remember the name) gave JP from safe (double/nothing all the way to £70). Cops 'n' Robbers was the best. 50p play, £70 jackpot. Got JP after about £20 from Cops 'n' Robbers feature then next board got £40 from Cash or Bust.

Came out of service station with probably about £30 profit, similar to £35JP/50p play. Just easier now to throw so much more money in than before. I'd rather stick with the £500 machines if it's £1 a play though...

[matrix2021]

I had a dapple on a few, one being It's Amazing from Barcrest - had a decent little play losing a few quid overall, but obviously didnt play the £1 a go.

Also had a bash at DOND The Crazy Chair and had a bit of a dilemma. Managed to get up to £20 red cash, Super Streak, and DOND feature activated with 5 red boxes going to £70, and I think i made the stupid choice of playing it safe for the £20. A drunken guy next to me said he had got the Super Streak earlier and only managed £20 despite it being £70jp. But then if I hadnt of been pished, I would of realised that even if I'd taken the DOND feature and got crap boxes, the offer would of (presumably) been immense because of the 5 red boxes showing £70 - who knows, anyone had any streaks/offers on the £70's?

[dtrmad2004]

tell you waht somone take me home clothes and furniture now i think raising the stakes is silly and will encourage ex addicts land thiose who still are back on the game

Me? never in a million years, im done and theres nothing they could do to tempt me back. Well maybe if they released a load of classics all in one machine with old £10/£15jp but I doubt it highly, I'm better off out of it.

I hated £35JP, never ever won a £35jp because I was happier playing the £5ers. seemed to get a better play from them so £70 is going to be alot worse.

[woofy]

To be honest, ive probably been around longer than most of you (if I haven't i'm sorry) as i used to play these machines when Fruit Snappa and Line Up were a breakthrough in technology (and were 10p a spin £2 JP!!)

I have seen the JP rise to £3, Then £4, Then 20p for £4.80 JP, £6, £8, £10 etc

To be honest 25p is about the normal acceptable amount per spin for amusement purposes before the serious player takes over.

There is NO way on gods earth you average Joe is going to entertain these new faceless £1 per spin for double numbers etc....why? because although the JP would be nice, they arent playing it for financial gain primarily, just amusement.

I can see what's going to happen, you are going to get revamped classics back out, but with improved payouts for maybe 25 per spin, and the £1 brigade will be pushed into the casinos / service stations etc.

I would love to spend £10 on a hyper viper style machine @ 25p rather than 10 spins of pure drivel on the new machines.

Anyone agree?

[Richard]

I think many of you are missing the point....

The feature may cost an average of lets say £5 to get on a £70 machine, you can have this as:

20 spins of 25p a go to then give the feature
10 spins of 50p a go to then give the feature

or

5 spins of £1 a go to get the feature....

But the net result of money in is the same, all the £1 stake does is speed things up. Perhaps you are one of those people who like to see reels spin constantly to losing combinations, ie. a 5p £75 jp machine, they do it all day long. Although I would argue this is just completely boring. If its going to cost £5 for the feature, then it mayaswell do it in 5 spins as 25 spins. Surely the entertainment in machines is not in watching the reels spin, but playing the feature!

The jackpot changes have really made very little difference to gameplay (on HI TECH MACHINES) on machines from £25 through to £70 jackpot, as the wins of over £10 are generally blocked unless the machine has been rammed, or you are forcing it. For the general punter the gameplay is the same, other than the fact if you do hit it lucky you might get £70 rather than £25... the DOND style games are certainly very popular on the £70 jackpot, and I don't know any players that would prefer them on the lower jackpots.

I can understand the views of those players wanting to play 10p £5 machines, although I can't say I agree personally, as I find such small stakes rather boring!

[Matty.N]

I think many of you are missing the point....

The feature may cost an average of lets say £5 to get on a £70 machine, you can have this as:

20 spins of 25p a go to then give the feature
10 spins of 50p a go to then give the feature

or

5 spins of £1 a go to get the feature....

average?

Most £35/£70s take £12 - £15 for a feature

im sure a lot of people know that

[cardie]

average?

Most £35/£70s take £12 - £15 for a feature

im sure a lot of people know that

They might aswell have clubbers in pubs now

[Sparkz]

average?

Most £35/£70s take £12 - £15 for a feature

im sure a lot of people know that

completely agree, when i used to play machines still, especially on £70jp machines, its usually the norm to put around £20 into it to be up on the board, wheres the fun in that?

as said by many people, the £70jp machines are not there for fun, they arent the good ol' fruit machine awp's we know and love, but instead lwp's (losses without payout),

they were made without any gambler in mind, instead with profits in mind but a higher jackpot to tempt people to play them (which rarely pays)

one day i hope machine makers fall flat on their arses for making sooo many of these dreaded machines

[DJDONKEY]

They might aswell have clubbers in pubs now

I agree. I've got LOTR £250 on 50p play and it gives far better gameplay than a £70 machine.

Mind you, in my local all the machines have a board on the top stating that the machine can give "Up to £210" if you get 2 repeats - I don't know of anyone doing it though!

[mb72]

I've had £210 just once. From Electrocoin's Lucky Leprechauns on £1 per spin.

To be fair, I'd put over £100 in with very little gameplay to speak of, then it lit all the pots of gold for an IM. I thought it was the flat £70, as I had to press the start button again, but then the red logo flashed and it did another £70. The same happened again for a total of £210.

Was amazed that the machine IOU'd with £33 left to pay, even though it had been backing and the note acceptor was lit throughout play.

I've never seen it do over £70 since

[Fruity_Goodness]

Probably not really worth playing unless you're willing to attack one with £200-£300. That way you'll most likely lose about £100-£200 for perhaps 3 hours play (guesstimate).

But they do look good fun. I bet winning the £70 jackie is easily comparable to a mid-range dry $&%#.

[Sparkz]

oh and i forgot to respond to richards post...

it doesnt "speed things up" as you say at all,

what happens with £70 jp machines, is typically some average guy goes on, loses, more average guys go on, generally lose, then someone who watches the machine all day and gambles loads will hunt for the jackpot...

they could put £80 in and still not get the jp, however they will think "if i walk away now i'l be £80 down, when i could put another £20 in and win JP and be just £30 down",


eventually lets say they do get the JP... that means the next X amount of players on it will get raped outta their own cash, because JP's on these machines are a rare occurance,

Lets comapre the speeding up process, So £100 in a £70jp machine could be equivilant to £10 in a £5jp machine, (based on the "speeding up" theory, if it was correct it would be speeding up things by 10X by playing a £70jp machine)

Many people here, that i know in person and of course myself have played nearly £100 maybe in a £70jp machine and got next to nothing out (a few offers of £5), playing £40 and not getting on the board, whereas if you play £10 in a £5jp machine (a true £5jp machine, not one of them crappy £25/£35jp machines converted to £5 where it round up wins) its certain that you will be on the board numerous times, and maybe 7/10 times scoop the jackpot, a high win, or a streak.

Whats more is, on higher jp machines, people never play them for fun, afterall if they are going to put £30+ into it, they want profit.

i for one am happier saying "well fair enough i lost £7 on that £5jp machine today" or "i won £10" rather than "shit, i just lost £80 on that fkin Con or no Con £70jp machine :("