Then can you kindly not post about it on public forums that I visit?
I have not got a clue what you just typed there, it makes no sense what so ever. 'As non of the layout designers and i am not selling there work' - sorry you got me, very confusing. What do you mean?
Okay let me get one thing straight since I have now said it half a dozen times....
1) Fruit-Emu have NOT ASKED FOR ANY DONATIONS.
2) YOU HAVE ASKED FOR DONATIONS ON AT LEAST THREE SITES.
I am not intent on peeing you off at all and I admire your efforts for the scene. I am just bringing into question the reasons why you think you should be accepting donations from the FME members. I am perfectly allowed to do that. If you want to shut down the repro then that is fine.
Selling them on ebay and asking for donations to the repro are different how? I never asked for any donations when I supplied you with the DVDs and I never asked for donations when I sourced roms and arkwork. I never asked for donations for my time in helping to produce 100s of layouts. Do you get my point yet? Or am I pissing in the wind here?
Hi Geddy
Selling them on E-bay is completly different as the people on e-bay are selling them for a profit, and the people have no choice I am asking for donations only the people still have access to the server for free and can download the layouts for free thay dont have to donate.
Fruit - Emu are asking for donations if this :-
Your Donation Will Be Used To Pay For our ever increasing bandwidth costs, our hosting Service, domain registration, software licensing fees, and maintenance costs
With a button underneth saying donate now on the home page is not asking for a donation the I dont know what is.
As i have told you before my software is very simple the reason i use it is because it's cheap and easy to maitain, the licence for the software used her and the other FME sites was to much for me to pay becaue of its limitations I cannot edit any of the pages so i cannot insert a donations request page on the pages of the repro, so i have choosen to ask in messages on the boards I post to which is not against the rules of any of the sites in question, and non of the site owners have made any complints to me
And you ask in a previous reply how i can know how much the server costs in electricity I dont need a meter attached to the PC I just use basic maths, and look back at the old bills. Like i wrote in the 1st reply to you my bills for power prior to running the server came in at an average £40 - £50 per Qtr and the bills after the server went online have jumped to an average of £90 - £100 per qtr as we have not purchaced any other electricty eating appliances since the server went on line 24/7 this means that the server is using approx £50 per qtr or £200 per year £50 X 4 multiply this by the 3 years the server has been running and that makes £600 not hard is it.
The fact that you choose not to ask for donataions is nither here or there I dont go on because you choose not to and when people send me disk' s I allways offer to cover there costs if thay choose not to accpet the offer that is there choice.
It could be that you have enough money to subsidise your self and for the past 3 years I have managed to support the site other than last year when the HDD failed and I asked on the same boards for donations there and people kindly helped out I did not see you getting on your high horse about me asking for donatons then. I have learned that the new company that has taken us over are going to impliment a wage cut of 5% accross the board starting next month, as an alternative to having to make staff redundant, this means less cash for me.
So in conclusion because to be honest you are starting to get right on my tits with this, I have choosen to ask for donataions to help run the site, which is exactly the same as the guys here at FE are doing even though your mind wont accept this.
If you dont like this just because you did not ask for donations then that is tough live with it I dont tell how you shouid do what you do, and I dont expect you to try telling me what to do I have a wife to do that job anyway.
Cliff C
Edited by cliffc, 20 February 2009 - 09:13 AM.
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