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#1 cliffc

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 01:14 PM

Hi All

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BIG UPDATE I have now enabled sign ups so you can now create your new account with your prefered user name and password the only thing I ask is that you use a genuine E-mail address because if you dont you will not be-able to recover your password if you forget it. Once created your account will be disabled until an admin ie me checks it and enables it. The only thing that will not get you enabled is if you dont use a genuine e-mail address.

If you dont have an e-mail address you want to use I can assure you i dont use your e-mail address for anything other than sending your password should you forget it. Then you can sign up for a reproserv e-mail address its all web based so you can get all them mails from your lovers with out the missus finding out lol to sign up for this you will need to go to the url below and sign up for you @mailreproserv.no-ip.org you need the :85 at the end or it wont work. You can also sign-up for an e-mail account if you just want your own private web based e-mail account as well its open to all users of the server to sign up for.

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The guest accesses will be switched off at the end of the month so you will need to have an account to log on with.

I have decided to do this as the emulatiors are now on this site so there is no need for me to have guest access anymore for access to the emulators. every one signs up will have a full access account, any one who wants to dontate and can prove thay are over 18 can also have access to the pron for 1 month.


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Posted 18 February 2009 - 01:21 PM

shit...i cant prove im over 18.......bollacks.....double bollacks...
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Posted 18 February 2009 - 01:24 PM

Cheers for this much appreiciated with all the great fme resources available:)

#4 cliffc

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 01:45 PM

shit...i cant prove im over 18.......bollacks.....double bollacks...


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I have every reason to beleve that you are indeed over 18 razor double bollack removel is not requred to prove your age, as there is no truth in the rumour that counting the wrinkels on them will show the owners age.

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#5 cliffc

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 03:28 PM

Hi

I forgot to say in the 1st post anyone who would like to donate can e-mail me at admin@mailreproserv.no-ip.org for info you can actually pick what non fruit machine section you would like access to it dont have to be the pron. The length of time you get access for is determined by the size of the donation. I should point out min donation for access to these areas is £5.00

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 03:31 PM

Hi

I forgot to say in the 1st post anyone who would like to donate can e-mail me at admin@mailreproserv.no-ip.org for info you can actually pick what non fruit machine section you would like access to it dont have to be the pron. The length of time you get access for is determined by the size of the donation. I should point out min donation for access to these areas is £5.00

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Surely you only need about 2 and a half minutes maximum though cliff ? :bigeyes09:
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#7 Geddy

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 03:32 PM

...for info you can actually pick what non fruit machine section you would like access to it dont have to be the pron. The length of time you get access for is determined by the size of the donation. I should point out min donation for access to these areas is £5.00


No tell me it ain't so.... :bigeyes25:

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 07:38 PM

Actually had a bit of a think about this... :bigeyes11:

Why ask for donations? Surely this is like selling discs on ebay? I mean does it cost anything on top of your internet costs that you incur anyway to host the 'repro?' (Hardware costs are really not counted here as they could be used for anything.)

I know I personally have contributed DVDs to help you stock up the 'repro' and I know at least one other member has. We both did this at our cost and did not ask for donations.

How do layout creators feel about you asking for donations?

Do you know it is illegal to host 'pr0n' in this country, let alone try to 'sell' access to it?

So again I ask why ask for donations? What costs are you trying to cover?

(Sorry not a dig just wondering and I am a bit concerned about the legality of it all...) :bigeyes09:

#9 cliffc

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:02 PM

Actually had a bit of a think about this... :bigeyes11:

Why ask for donations? Surely this is like selling discs on ebay? I mean does it cost anything on top of your internet costs that you incur anyway to host the 'repro?' (Hardware costs are really not counted here as they could be used for anything.)

I know I personally have contributed DVDs to help you stock up the 'repro' and I know at least one other member has. We both did this at our cost and did not ask for donations.

How do layout creators feel about you asking for donations?

Do you know it is illegal to host 'pr0n' in this country, let alone try to 'sell' access to it?

So again I ask why ask for donations? What costs are you trying to cover?

(Sorry not a dig just wondering and I am a bit concerned about the legality of it all...) :bigeyes09:



Hi

As far as i know its not actually illigal to host pron in this country as long as the said pron its self is not illgal to posess in this country.

And yes i do have costs allthough I do run it on my own PC I and i would pay the connection anyway, but the hardware is obvously used more and therefoe dont last as long as it would if i was just using it as a PC, and then i have the power costs the PC runs 24/7 it would not if I was not running the server. For example since the PC has been running the server I have had to replace the PSU twice and I have had to replace 2 HDD's the one last year some of the users kindly dontated. The site still costs me money to run not say as much as FE does as hosting and server costs are involved here, and I would like to say that I have not spent anywhere near the amounts of money that Duplu and the guys here have had to put in.

You dont have to donate I am not saying you have to donate if you to continue accessing the site and as my software is no where as near complex as the software here I cannot give you a nice new colour on your name, so I made the offer to give a little something back to any one who would like to donate. I wont restrict access or cut the number of downloads a day if you dont donate ect.

But i was just giving people the chance to donate if thay so wish with an option to get a little extra for doing so

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:22 PM

Surely you only need about 2 and a half minutes maximum though cliff ? :bigeyes09:



Some phone versions say all you need is 30 seconds ;)

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 11:36 PM

Hi

I think a lot of people are under the imperession because i am running the server off my own PC and useing my own inrernet connection that I have no costs this is far from the truth I have costs (not as big as DAD or FE who rent servers and hosting and seeing FE cost examples I could not afford to).

I have to pay for all of the electricity to run the server and the ancilary equipment 24/7 as an example when i was not running the server and the pc was on only when needed, my leccy bill per qtr was arround £50 since I have been running the server its jumped to £100 per qtr and i have been running the server now for about 3 years so thats £200 per year or £600.

The PC is on 24/7 this means that bits die much quicker than normal in the last 3 years I have replaced god knows how many cooling fans (the server has 6) 2 Heavy Duty PSU's 2 hard drives one of which the guys who use the site dontated to replace last year about this time. And in the last week as I am now offering e-mail accounts to users I have added another 1.5TB of storeage space.

I am only saying if people want to donate thay can I am not makeing them donate and I am not saying if thay dont donate I will reduce download amounts or close accounts, I am just asking for donations which are for the site. I am not asking them to pay for the roms nor am i putting them on on DVD and selling them on E-bay for £5 a go which is selling the roms.

FE are asking for donations and i dont see them getting any flack for it the pron access was just there as option thay dont have to have it as i cannot offer them a nice colour for there name if thay donate as the software I use is very simple, I cannot customise it in any way infact but it has done the job I want it to for the past 3 years.

But with flack like this I can see why so many people have left the scene I dont need it all i am doing is provideing a free recsorce and I am just asking if any one who uses it would like to put a little back by making a small donation.

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Edited by cliffc, 18 February 2009 - 11:55 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:16 AM

Hi All

Following some legal advice from a solicitor frind of mine who advises offering access to the pron areas even for a donation could possibly land me in some legal dog poo, please consider the offer off access to this area offically withdrawen.

However if you would still like to donte please e-mail me at

admin@mailreproserv.no-ip.org

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:02 PM

But with flack like this I can see why so many people have left the scene I dont need it all i am doing is provideing a free recsorce and I am just asking if any one who uses it would like to put a little back by making a small donation.


It is not flack at all, I clearly stated that in my post in the last sentence. Also are you providing a 'free resource' if indeed you are asking for donations? I do have concerns that all of a sudden people seem to be jumping on the 'donation' bandwagon. I knew when I started the DVD service that I would have certain costs to cover myself but I did not care as I was helping the scene. I presume this was true in your case also.

I just think it is against the spirit of FME that has took years to build up to ask for donations like this. Web sites are IMO are exempt from asking as I believe they have a unique part to play in the scene but individuals who ask for donations IMO are wrong. They either do it for the love of the scene or not at all.

I'm pleased you have removed the offer of the pr0n as I considered that an association with FME that we did not need. Due to the actions of a certain FME member I nearly lost my job because of the contents of FME sites, I am sure I would have if they had been associated with pr0n.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:21 PM

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#15 ForYouToEnvy

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:11 PM

Nothing wrong with a top guy like cliffc asking for a few donations to cover costs, not as if hes trying to make a fast buck as hes been providing a free service for years now.

I imagine if he did make any profit he would spend it on upgrading his system and why not.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:45 PM

Nothing wrong with a top guy like cliffc asking for a few donations to cover costs.


Erm what about the rest of us who are 'out of pocket' because of various ventures helping out FME?

I supplied DVDs at my cost to cliffc for the 'repro' and I'm not asking for donations or donations for the other DVD sets I have done... numbering over 300 now.

I am also not asking for donations to cover the costs of doing the various dats... takes me time and electricity to do that, I'm not asking for donations to cover the costs of layouts, or the roms I have sourced.... get my point yet?

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:57 PM

Nothing wrong with a top guy like cliffc asking for a few donations to cover costs, not as if hes trying to make a fast buck as hes been providing a free service for years now.

I imagine if he did make any profit he would spend it on upgrading his system and why not.


Hi

Yes indeed any cash that comes in from the dontations will be used ether for upgrading the system, or towards the running costs of the server.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:10 PM

Erm what about the rest of us who are 'out of pocket' because of various ventures helping out FME?

I supplied DVDs at my cost to cliffc for the 'repro' and I'm not asking for donations or donations for the other DVD sets I have done... numbering over 300 now.

I am also not asking for donations to cover the costs of doing the various dats... takes me time and electricity to do that, I'm not asking for donations to cover the costs of layouts, or the roms I have sourced.... get my point yet?


Hi

If any one sends me disks I will allways make an offer to provide costs to cover the disks and postage.

A user here i wont name him in case he dont want me to has recently send me some DVD's with data on them for the server ( I will be using the soon by the way ), But i made him and offer to cover his costs he declined but i will allways make the offer, as I dont beleve any one should be out of pocket if thay are helping out.

Yes but you dont run a web site you can still turn your PC off every night you have not had to pay out £600 in the past 3 years in electricity, I am not selling the rom like the guys here at Fruit - Emu I am just asking for cash to help me out a little. I have just been informed to day at work that our new owners are introduceing a Pay Cut accross the board of between 2.5 and 5 percent we do have a vote on if to accpet it but it accept it or have redundncys. I dont notice you moaning at the operators here at Fruit - Emu because thay are asking for donations.

What I run is a web site there are forums there no one uses them because the software goes direct to the download section and thease are what people tend to grab. And as i have said I am not making people donate its a request.

Also any money donated will be used to run the site or for pc improvements, not for my extravigant holiday to Blackpool.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:48 PM

If any one sends me disks I will allways make an offer to provide costs to cover the disks and postage.


That is only half the issue, you are effectively selling what they gave you for nothing.

Yes but you dont run a web site you can still turn your PC off every night you have not had to pay out £600 in the past 3 years in electricity, I am not selling the rom like the guys here at Fruit - Emu I am just asking for cash to help me out a little.


Is anyone asking you to keep it open 24 hours a day? No that is your choice, you can turn it off if you want. £600 in 3 years for electricity... damn I wish... what company do you use I'm having them in here. Also I would imagine that your electric bill covers other items in house that use the magic juice. Unless you have a separate supply to cover the PC.

I dont notice you moaning at the operators here at Fruit - Emu because thay are asking for donations.


Can you link me to the post where any FE staff are asking for donations? I think you will find they are not however some kind people are offering.

Also any money donated will be used to run the site or for pc improvements, not for my extravigant holiday to Blackpool.


You will be providing us with your end of quarter results I take it before sending it to the City?

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:55 PM

Yes geddy i get you're point but cliffc has been spending a damn site more then the cost of a few dvd's to keep the repro running and he has now decided to ask for a little help via donations.

One min you're asking members to donate to this site then the next you're saying its wrong for cliffc to ask for donations(remember up till a short while ago cliffc was hosting the emu's that ran a large number of this sites layouts, he has done more then his fair share to keep FME alive)




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