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fistandantilus

Member Since 05 May 2003
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Fruit machines fiddling the books?

27 August 2005 - 11:33 AM

I have noticed this with a lot of machines playing with mfme, that the credits going in seems to go up faster than the amount you are adding. Every so often it registers and extra 10p or so. After putting £35 in each way nudger it registered £35.90.

Could someone in the know tell me if this is just an error in mfme counters or if the machine is adding non existant 10 pences.

I am not saying this is the designers skimming more money, the opposite, that would be if extra 10p's added to the payout lol. I just have noticed it with a lot of machines and have wondered why.

Top Sprint

05 August 2004 - 08:08 PM

I was reliving the good old days playing Online, probably the first ever fruitie i played, when i remembered Top Sprint, a truely awesome game, or so my selective nostalgic memory seems to think lol

Anyone know what tech this mighty game used and if its likely to be emulated anytime soon. I haven't seen this machine in over ten years which is a shame as it was quite entertaining and one of the first games to have a win streak feature.

There were also a few 10p a credit £3 jackpots machines with melon meter cash pots and such from around that era. Anyone remember some of there names and if they are emulated also?

Hmm was reading an old topic and saw this...

29 April 2004 - 12:35 PM

You can never win!! Not continually, it's mostly down to luck, and a tiny tiny smidge of skill that may give you a small advantage from time to time. Play the emulator and see the pattern. you soon lose the urge to throw real money in them, if your brain works!!


this seems to be of an opinion that emulation is likely to stop people playing real fruit machines in favour of emulation.

I disagree totally, if you go to an arcade you don't just pick a machine and play on it none stop or at least i never did. The secret to a smart gambler is to find a machine you know, put in a few credits to try and get a feel of where in its pay cycle it is and then either give the machine up as a bad job and move to another or try and make a quick profit and then move on and repeat the process.

How many of you who know a gambler who tells you "don't get stuck on a machine", i know several, we all know you can't beat a single machine in the long term but with luck, skill and knowledge you can beat "them". The true skills comes from recognising when your gonna take a kicking and minimising the damage.

The fun comes from being that one step ahead of the machine, or at least thinking you were when you misread the signs. You noticed that after a jackpot you almost always get a quick feature straight afterwards. Knowledge usually tells you you can add maybe £2 -£3 to your jackpot before you leave the machine. You know after that one feature the machine is gonna die on you and recoup its loss. Doesn't always happen you could put half the jackpot in chasing that first feature but then after several credits you should have realised this and minimized your loss.



This is where emulation comes in, gaining experience and knowlege. Experience is everything and this is why i never play new machines, that and the fact they are shite lol. If i could test the new machines on an emulator them maybe i would play them.

Machines make profit not on what type of people play them but how many credits go through them. Besides seeing a machine paying out is good advertising, Why do you thing they have fancy jackpot jingles and make such a racket paying out. More people who play emulators the more people likely to play the machines. Free advertising.

All this taken into consideration I can't see how emulation could damage the industry

Hmmm call me stupid but....

29 April 2004 - 11:31 AM

I am wondering why the mpu5 machines haven't been emulated yet. Now I know its illegal etc to host the roms but to emulate the technology isn't if the bleem playstation emulation set president. I have seen many quotes like "maybe when mpu6 comes out" etc but what the hell does that mean? You think cos its old technology that thecompany is going to give you the circuit diagrams or something? Take a look at the famous 68000 chip still used today or at least varients, emulation would still be in the dark ages if we waited for this to be replaced?

I am a big follower of mame and have been with the scene since it began way back when it only supported a half dozen games. Now they emulate far harder hardware from machines that are rarer and have less documentation on. Does MPU5 use some form of encryption with perhaps suicide rom chips? Not owning a fruit machine I have no clue to this. Unless they suddenly added a load of custom chips I can't see how emulating mpu5 is harder than mpu4. Can someone please enlighten me?


I think you guys have to look at it like this. You can sell a kitchen knife and 99% of people will use it to cut food, if someone takes a further step to use it to break the law can you be held responsible? Assuming you didn't sell it to a guy with a stammer, dodgy raincoat, a pronouced tick in his left eye and hate tattoed on his forehead. Breaking copyright is the user responsability to uphold. If someone copied a dvd could hmv be sued for supplying the original?