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#1 cardie

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

Firstly what is that name all about? Im guessing its the designers nick name or somthing.

 

W hat I want to know is: What is it? What Machines can it be fitted to? What does it look like? What is its history? When was it made? What did MAB have to do with it? and a picture, and anything else anyone can think of!

 

Ive played machines with them, they can offer nudges and flash the win in the bank display etc, also they have cheats hidden in them (unless this is down to the program of the machine and not the kit)

 

 

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:31 PM

Mark (Stanmarsh) seems to know a fair bit about these, hopefully he will explain better than I can...



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 07:27 PM

essentially it was a plug in board designed specifically to plug into an electrocoin bar-x. (on the related note it is rumored that electrocoin were sooo pissed off that they actually paid for somebody to humiliate/smash the car of the designer of the chuzzy kit. there is more to it but you get the picture)

 

 

it would overide the jackpot/stake/percent key and transform the machine into something with flash holds/extra nudges etc but also programmable payouts like £25/£50/£75/£100 etc etc with whatever payout you wanted.

 

 

 

the card itself was an overnight success UNTIL electrocoin stepped in with their solicitors and hitmen etc and now the chuzzy or chussy is no more. 

 

(this is my interpritation of the story, but perhaps another member could tell it better)


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 07:38 PM

chuzzy kits are about still in nottingham skeggy blackpool and more 



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 09:52 PM

Makes the standard bar-x play a different game.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 12:46 AM

Right chuzzy kits.....

Basically they are an enhancement kit board game (Sometimes called a Dog Bone, due to the shape), which plugged in to the mainboard of Electrocoin MK2 type boards (They don't work on MK 1's, same as the Concept / MAB one's), which gives the operator, several different games, based on the original electrocoin games (Due to legalities and to avoid confusion, they are NOT the same code as what Electrocoin use), like Bar-x, Big 7's, Red Bar etc.

The board can be used in BOTH the standard / slim / compact, and casino type cab, which uses the MK 2 system board.

As you have mentioned yourself, idea behind the kit, was to give the player, enhanced gameplay, like 9 / unlimited nudges, streaks, middle reel hold on jackpot symbol, nudges from 3 times O's on winline when held, flash wins, and so on.

For the operator, it offered flexibility and ease of game control, like being able to set whatever values in £1 lumps to various wins, as well as setting price of play from 10p up to 50p (Currently anyway, though I think this may have changed with the new £100 jackpot rules), and 3 different pre-set percentage rates, as well as enhanced game play data and security features, like recalling last win bank which is useful for checking short pay complaints.

As for MAB, chuzzy actually assisted in the making of these kits, however they somewhat differed in how they was designed and fitted (Tell tale sign you have a MAB, is if you see a small daughterboard fitted inside the cab on a fly-wire, which controls the JP / Price of play), also noting MAB did their own take of cabs, which again was based on Electrocoin’s..... As for the Concept version, they was an attempt of a copy (A very poor one at that!) of the Chuzzy / MAB kit, as well as making a flutter box version of the game (Which again was coded quite badly!), which was 2 or more bar-x type games chained together, with a random top box feature.

As for the man himself, I do directly know him (As does Ron over at MPU Mecca), as also knowing he has an arcade in Nottingham, which a few members have been to before, also noting that despite what others have said, the board does NOT breach copyright (It uses its own code for one thing, NOT same / similar, or adapted Electrocoin base code), and is still being developed to this day (I have the most currently released code, at v6.4, MK3).

Not got a pic to hand (I'm down at me mothers, otherwise I would take some pics of what I have at my place) of the actual board, though I do have the instruction manual here (See attached).

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 08:50 AM

chuzzys kits are better the concept crap as i call them as they cannot code well anyway take the midus touch for one



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 10:40 AM

Has anybody tried emulating the 'chuzzy kit' or is it still linked to the unemulated eletrocoin tech you say flutter box is that as the random annoying top box thingy we get on our emus or as in oxo club
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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:30 AM

Has anybody tried emulating the 'chuzzy kit' or is it still linked to the unemulated eletrocoin tech you say flutter box is that as the random annoying top box thingy we get on our emus or as in oxo club

 

Can tell you right now, no way in hell can it be emulated, without a large re-write to any emulated version of the Electrocoin board, and it's very likely it will have to be emulated as a stand alone thing in any case.

A lot of work, for very little end result.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 12:18 PM

Ty ploggys super multi nudge,thats the closest you will get to a chuzzy machine atm,it runs on scorp 2 but played like i mab with the nudge wink.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 03:46 PM

From what I remember, I could be wrong, but doesn't the Chuzzy kit replace the z80 cpu on the board and simply use the ecoin board as IO ports.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 04:50 PM

Thanks for all these reply and information!

 

So whos making them now? As I know 4 machines in one arcade near blackpool alone that have these kits!

 

And another that has 2 or 3! So im guessing theres a very large percentage of these boards in machines all over the UK?


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 05:17 PM

From what I remember, I could be wrong, but doesn't the Chuzzy kit replace the z80 cpu on the board and simply use the ecoin board as IO ports.

 

Rings a bell. I don't have the photos of my old one to hand, but IIRC there were 4 sockets on that part of the board, I think it was a Z80 socket, PROM socket, and possibly 2 sockets for the GAL (stakes and prizes?) board?

 

I seem to recall the Chuzzy kit used the outer two sockets, so one would have been the Z80 and presumably the other was indeed one of the GAL (stakes and prizes board) sockets. I could be wrong of course but that's as good as I can recall.

 

As for the Chuzzy kit itself - it was very interesting. I had lots of fun messing about with the HUGE range of stakes / prizes options. I assume mine was pretty outdated as the options were for £2/£4/£5/£6/£8/£10/£15/£25/£50/£75 jackpots, no doubt more recent boards would have allowed £35 / £70 (the previous two Cat C limits) as well as possibly other higher options.

 

You could allow ANY stake in combination with those if I recalled correctly - I once ran Bar X on 50p play, with £1 XXX and £2 BAR (jackpot) wins. Interesting setup if you wanted as close to a 'coin toss' gamble as you could get, admittedly though it was done for a laugh rather than being serious.

 

My Chuzzy kit also introducted an equivalent to the 'whistle' (and I think it made a bleepy machine-gun type noise at the time!) you get on Mazooma lo-techs, whereby it flashed a win value in £1 units on the BANK display (for example, a £25 win would show '25' in the display), and gave sufficient nudges to achieve it. 

 

Unfortunately I ended up selling the machine on, with the kit intact. It was an interesting machine to own but just didn't do enough for me. I'd probably have been better off with a more volatile lo-tech, I much prefer a 'suck for ages and drop a mental streak' game.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 05:37 PM

These "chuzzy" games were quite abundant when Agora arcades were present (don't see em now) Must have had them on low %payout cos it was foul gameplay and when I did hit it lucky it would only streak to around £35/50 tops-it was when jackpots were £25 so only a modest payback as you would be more than that in (50+) Glad Agora went--it was all money laundering anyway and Cashino have bought them now. Can you imagine a "chuzzy streak if bars were £100  lol :)



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 06:02 PM

Thanks for all these reply and information!

 

So whos making them now? As I know 4 machines in one arcade near blackpool alone that have these kits!

 

And another that has 2 or 3! So im guessing theres a very large percentage of these boards in machines all over the UK?

 

chuzzys still making them so to speak



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 06:50 PM

These "chuzzy" games were quite abundant when Agora arcades were present (don't see em now) Must have had them on low %payout cos it was foul gameplay and when I did hit it lucky it would only streak to around £35/50 tops-it was when jackpots were £25 so only a modest payback as you would be more than that in (50+) Glad Agora went--it was all money laundering anyway and Cashino have bought them now. Can you imagine a "chuzzy streak if bars were £100  lol :)

 

My Chuzzy kit only had 3 percentage settings (or maybe even 2?) - IIRC it was low, standard and high but I could be wrong. In any case I'm pretty sure they were something like 82/86/90%, which isn't bad really compared to many other sites. 


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:03 PM

From what I remember, I could be wrong, but doesn't the Chuzzy kit replace the z80 cpu on the board and simply use the ecoin board as IO ports.

 

not entirely....

The Z80, is borrowed from the Electrocoin board, and fitted on to the dogbone, and used along side the square socket chip, along with the game rom.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:07 PM

These "chuzzy" games were quite abundant when Agora arcades were present (don't see em now) Must have had them on low %payout cos it was foul gameplay and when I did hit it lucky it would only streak to around £35/50 tops-it was when jackpots were £25 so only a modest payback as you would be more than that in (50+) Glad Agora went--it was all money laundering anyway and Cashino have bought them now. Can you imagine a "chuzzy streak if bars were £100  lol :)

There is only 3 generalised percentage settings, which are LO (74% I think) Standard (84%), and HI (90%).



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:23 PM

i have recently purchased a super bar x ( 1993 ) version...fitted with a concept kit...i got it at xxx £1   bars a fiver.....i flick a switch and now its xxx tenner and bars 25...switches 1-3 is verious price per spin...i didnt get a user guide with this machine.....can someone please tell me what switches 4 5 6 7 & 8 do please



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:37 PM

can someone please upload the 1993 super bar x manuel ( with the 8 switches )






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