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[dave t]

hi guys , need some help , basically i bought that battered deal or no deal play it again fruit machine off ebay because i have aspare cab

 

to transfer it into , and before transfering everything over which will take quiet afew hours i would like to get it right before hand so its just acase of transferring everything over 

 

so all the door switches were ripped out to which i have rewired them up and to the cherry switches it now knows when its shut but it displys note mech error 15

 

 it had no hopper because it was stolen , so i have put a seriel hopper in out of another scrap machine because it says only seriel hoppers to be used 

 

it has anoteaccepter ajcm one  , in test mode it takes notes it also says the key is valid in test mode , it takes coins in test mode the hopper also pays out coins in test mode and the hopper will dump in test mode 

 

dil switchs 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 are all on on the scorpion 5 board which i think its 13 for the note accepter

 

so basically when i tape the cherry switches shut  because it can't shut parts of the cabinet are missing it displys that error (note mech error 15)

 

so could someone tell me what i am missing please and thanks

 

dave

[dave t]

disconnect the note acceptor and put dil switch 13 off the machine will come on ready to play is it possible the note acceptor is faulty?

 

but if it works in test?  I don't get it

[skabaz]

connect the note acceptor back up and put switch 8 on.

 

switch 13 was for some older bellfruits  and electrocoin cabinets.

 

baz

[dave t]

thanks baz , but just checking dil switch 8 is already on??

[skabaz]

try switch 11 as this may have been have been just before bellfruit changed to switch 8 for note acceptor.

 

baz

Edited by bazpeeb, 10 March 2014 - 09:21 PM.

[dave t]

nope ive put 11 on still the error

 

here is aphoto of the reck ha ha  

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[NickYerPesos]

Are you using the old looms or ones you know are working. Im sure switch 8 is the note switch on this. The loom runs in a series with note/coin/payout.. if something is faulty it may not commumicate down the rest of the equipment throwing an error.. it could also of course be that your note acceptor has packed up.
Not sure if it applies to an earlier bellfruit but is your machine DES encrypted as a standard jcm may not talk down a DES route.

[NickYerPesos]

but if it works in test?  I don't get it

Unfortunately with todays encryption, keys, coding and security.. there is a big difference in it working in test and in doors closed mode. Plenty of mechs and tests work In test but if your security or encryption doesnt match itll error as soon as you close that door

[dave t]

hi im using the old loom , it was left in an empty building which it was working there before it was broke into. i am gathering 

 

not sure what des encrypted means

 

thanks

ps it takes coins when the note accepter is disconneted

[skabaz]

looking at your piccys it should be switch 8 as nick said.

 

i am thinking the note acceptor is knackered or you have a fault on the loom.

 

It looks like it has an old jcm eba 12 or 22. 

 

Best try and get a nv10 or a jcm taiko note acceptor.

dont think this machine is des encrypted but even if it was a nv10 or taiko should work.

 

baz

[NickYerPesos]

Turn of switch 8 and disconnect the note acceptor... does it work then??
I have a spare teiko if you need to buy one.

[dave t]

turn the note accepter off it comes on plays with money and also pays out its just won't work with that acceptor on??

 

i will want an acceptor i think but this weekend i'm hoping to transfer it all over to the new cab so if that goes well then we'll see 

 

but like i say i didn't want to transfer it all over then find i couldn't get things sorted 

 

so we think it is the acceptor at fault?

[dave t]

looking at your piccys it should be switch 8 as nick said.

 

i am thinking the note acceptor is knackered or you have a fault on the loom.

 

It looks like it has an old jcm eba 12 or 22. 

 

Best try and get a nv10 or a jcm taiko note acceptor.

dont think this machine is des encrypted but even if it was a nv10 or taiko should work.

 

baz

your right its a eba 22  is it possible that the note acceptor is faultly but will still work in test ??  ive tryed another loom only the short one from the mech to where 

 

it plugs into the long loom that goes to the board, in the spare cab which is also ascorpion 5 it has all the wiring so it will have the hopper/coin mech/noteaccepter loom that i can try too 

[aaamusements]

nope ive put 11 on still the error
 
here is aphoto of the reck ha ha

Crikey, what a mess!

Is that a Maygay video "South Park" SWP next to it? I had one years ago and it was good fun.

[adb]

Crikey, what a mess!

Is that a Maygay video "South Park" SWP next to it? I had one years ago and it was good fun.

 

Saw one on Ebay listed as an INDIE terminal, not sure if they've just stuck a pc in or not - http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=121283581796

Edited by adb, 11 March 2014 - 03:25 AM.

[NickYerPesos]

I personally would transfer everything over. You will definately get to the bottom of it. It will be one of three things.
1.. most unlikely but perhaps the board is not working properly and not communicating which is causing the problem... fix by replacing board.

2. Next least likely is a faulty note acceptor. Only because it works in test mode.. it is not normal for a note acceptor to work in test and not in doors closed. Weve discussed encryption possibilities and I doubt its that.

3. Most likely in my opinion. Faulty Loom.
Fix.. You will need a new loom that has two connections to the board.. and three outputs (coin mech/hopper/note acceptor) I would imagine they are not communicating properly.

Also just thinking about it.. it could be a faulty board.. it could be that it is not recognising switch 8 being "On"... so would work with just coins but hook up your note mech and it fails.. yeh.. easiest option first... change that board.

[aaamusements]

 

Saw one on Ebay listed as an INDIE terminal, not sure if they've just stuck a pc in or not - http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=121283581796

 

Could be a Fatspanner conversion. They did build a few into these old Maygay cabinets.

[dave t]

 

Could be a Fatspanner conversion. They did build a few into these old Maygay cabinets.

hi alex , its an old maygay cabinet that my uncle fitted acomputer in the board in it is a winfast it has games like bullseye, skill ball bingo, word soup etc 50 games it has

thats not working at the minute and i know nothing about them . 

[dave t]

I personally would transfer everything over. You will definately get to the bottom of it. It will be one of three things.
1.. most unlikely but perhaps the board is not working properly and not communicating which is causing the problem... fix by replacing board.

2. Next least likely is a faulty note acceptor. Only because it works in test mode.. it is not normal for a note acceptor to work in test and not in doors closed. Weve discussed encryption possibilities and I doubt its that.

3. Most likely in my opinion. Faulty Loom.
Fix.. You will need a new loom that has two connections to the board.. and three outputs (coin mech/hopper/note acceptor) I would imagine they are not communicating properly.

Also just thinking about it.. it could be a faulty board.. it could be that it is not recognising switch 8 being "On"... so would work with just coins but hook up your note mech and it fails.. yeh.. easiest option first... change that board.

you were right nick, the board is at fault i took it out and looked at the back where the dil switches are and its had problems before someone has gone over the solder joints,

 

i put another board in that has areel fault after afew spins but was enough for me to try the note accepter and it works with this other board

 

so thanks and thanks everyone else , 

[skabaz]

hey dave

 

for future reference if you entered test routines and checked the switch test you could have checked if the dil switches are working without removing the board.

 

baz