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#21 Bencrest

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 08:55 PM

< Spiker the Biker, Each Way Nudge and a knackered Cluedo SWP :)

Still want to get a Monty Python, in which case it'll be 'bye bye Each Way Nudge :O'
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#22 Nudgeman

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 11:05 PM

A typo - "now you 7s", should be know your 7s.

I meant memorise the colour of the 7s on each reel and their position on that reel in relation to other fruits. It's the same layout on all the Beaverish Globals. Hi Spirits included in that. I always memorise them in relation to the jackpot on each reel. It's basic generic advice really but can mean the difference between £2 and £15. 7 stepper only steps down and if you're real sharp at skills, getting 7 stepper off true skill features (boxes is possible. one set of boxes will give the £15 I know that.
I'm not that sharp, but I know a man who is and Reel Devil is also obtainable - a true skill 'Roman Reels' onto jackpot - whilst 7 stepper is always there for the taking on skill features, Reel Devil isn't apparently.
That's not the only similarity this has with Caeser's Palace either.

I'll get you started on those 7s. On the middle reel the red 7 comes after the jackpot and it is the only 7 on that reel to have a feature symbol on it.

This is a beautiful machine. There are better machines you could buy, but this one packs a fair few challenges and will give you something to get to grips with.

As for Bencrest's Spiker - it's a pleasant enough Crest of it's era released by Barcrest on my Birthday actually but I really don't think it has the depths of Hi-Spirits. (ooooh I'm going to get a flaming now!)

Monty Python is another solid 'streaky' crest with its 'NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION' <<bang>> flashy flashy. Some comedic sound effects, in fact 'I'm sorry, I'm going to have to shoot you' was the only GAME OVER sample that made me smile instead of kicking the machine and shouting "bastard robbing thing!". Lemon curry, I like traffic lights. It's well presented, a great theme, but it doesn't have the gameplay depth of HI Spirits. (Yikes! flaming number two coming up!)

It may be worth noting that on Beaver uncovered 7 stepper goes up as well as down. As indeed it does on Spiker The Biker. As does Bar stepper on Monty Python.

Where is this workplace? HI-Spirits will double your wages if your colleagues aren't too good at it.

#23 Bencrest

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 11:59 PM

Yikes, another chance to make myself unpopular :D

[quote=Nudgeman]A typo - "now you 7s", should be know your 7s.

I meant memorise the colour of the 7s on each reel and their position on that reel in relation to other fruits. It's the same layout on all the Beaverish Globals. Hi Spirits included in that. I always memorise them in relation to the jackpot on each reel. It's basic generic advice really but can mean the difference between £2 and £15. 7 stepper only steps down and if you're real sharp at skills, getting 7 stepper off true skill features [/quote]

Thats great, if you get the machine set up in such a way that it is possible to get the £15 from Red 7s from a Seven Stepper. Still, the machine has to be ready to offer such a feature, which if the machine is dead could cost you upwards of £25. Furthermore, if the machine is offering all the Skill 'Boxes' e.t.c, maybe you are better off holding on for the JP? Don't forget, there is NO skill whatsoever in modern machines, and missing that £15 for a Red 7s win could make the board IM shortly after or to the next punter.

[quote]I'm not that sharp
[/quote] probably true...[quote]..., but I know a man who is and Reel Devil is also obtainable - a true skill 'Roman Reels' onto jackpot - whilst 7 stepper is always there for the taking on skill features, Reel Devil isn't apparently.
That's not the only similarity this has with Caeser's Palace either.[/quote]

I fail to believe that the Skill Features thing is 100% true skill, and if it is, may you strike me down with a giant cotton wool bud like they use on Gladiators [or did in the olden days :D]. This stuff about a man who is sharp and Reel Devil is also obtainable...you then INVALIDATE that clause by saying [quote] Seven Stepper is always there for the taking, Reel Devil isn't apparently].

THEREFORE you have admitted that it CAN'T be SKILL FEATURES in the True Skill sense, as a certain feature WHICH HAPPENS TO BE JP CAPABLE is not always available....*yawn* NEXT!

[quote]I'll get you started on those 7s. On the middle reel the red 7 comes after the jackpot and it is the only 7 on that reel to have a feature symbol on it. [/quote]

Well, thats one of the reels sorted, and that sort of info might come in useful to someone that believes that Seven Stepper is a chance for them to get one over on the machine, but is useless to a proper player.

[quote]This is a beautiful machine.
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It is a fairly ugly rebuild IMHO :)
[quote] There are better machines you could buy, but this one packs a fair few challenges and will give you something to get to grips with.[/quote]
There are FAR better machines out there, but these represent real bargains since the Barcrest Group acquistion of Maygay/Impulse and Extreme. To be honest, Andy Capp was a 500% better machine and can be had for a tenner. Monty Python was a FAR better machine, is £25, and can be had for little over £100.

[quote]As for Bencrest's Spiker - it's a pleasant enough Crest of it's era released by Barcrest on my Birthday actually but I really don't think it has the depths of Hi-Spirits. (ooooh I'm going to get a flaming now!)[/quote]

A Super Trail which CAN'T kill you, Feature upgrades which can make a Pound Run pay £12 [highest I have had], Seven Stepper in both directions, PLUS it has a repeat chance when upgraded, 'Swap Holds' which can give an easy Melon [£8 on my version] or £15/£25 JP win for those in the know, and plenty of other stuff. I will also say though, that as with all other £25 machines, that it will play AS BADLY as the machine above when caught at the wrong time. That is the fault of the £25JP, not of the machine itself :)

Keep an eye out for Spiker 2 by Maygay [in the Horizon Cab, probably under the Maygay name?], coming soon :o

[quote]Monty Python is another solid 'streaky' crest with its 'NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION' <<bang>> flashy flashy. Some comedic sound effects, in fact 'I'm sorry, I'm going to have to shoot you' was the only GAME OVER sample that made me smile instead of kicking the machine and shouting "bastard robbing thing!". Lemon curry, I like traffic lights. It's well presented, a great theme, but it doesn't have the gameplay depth of HI Spirits. (Yikes! flaming number two coming up!)
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Can someone please clarify 'depth' of gameplay for me, especially with regards to £25 machine? With what little gameplay machines such as Hi Spirits have to offer, I would stick with Monty Python [one of my faves :D], and at least get SOME amusement [AWP after all] for my cash. Plus, as with Spiker, at least 7 Stepper goes both ways, and can also be easily manipulated.

[quote]It may be worth noting that on Beaver uncovered 7 stepper goes up as well as down. As indeed it does on Spiker The Biker. As does Bar stepper on Monty Python. [/quote Monty Python doesn't have a Bar Stepper does it? It has a 7 Stepper called Seventh Heaven which will step either way?]

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Where is this workplace? HI-Spirits will double your wages if your colleagues aren't too good at it.[/quote]

Now that is the funniest quote in years. That is the equivalent of saying

'Club Cops N Robbers is a guarenteed £250 if noone else knows how to play it'. Seriously, machines on £25 are so simplistic and blocked that I could take out your brain, and you could still JP them. Can I please reiterate that there is no player skill left in ANY £25 awp on the planet, and anyone that thinks otherwise is sadly deluded.

Damn, this has been a good night for quoting :)

Good fun though, I like a bit of debate :D
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Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)




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