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#21 gemini17

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 02:37 PM

Whatever, its a shit layout, badly researched, improperly lamped, and full of guesswork.

Please dont produce any layouts for my emulator, much better for my emu to be associated with quality whilst MFME gets sullied with ten-a-penny layouts produced by people who dont care enough to correct their mistakes.

You know I dont know the 1st thing bout creating the emulations-but I do know the work that goes into them and the time thats put in.
And if it wasnt for Tommy.C we would not have the vast ammount of emulations that we enjoy every month. :notworthy:
Yet for anyone to criticize anyones work is beyond me.Especialy when dates are given for a project,which 2week later is still incomplete. :skeptical:
Is this not a case of (spittin yr dummy out the pram),as your work is not ready for release?
My advice to you ,go finish ya emulator and then come back and we can all see if it lives upto the picture you paint!

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Edited by gemini17, 12 June 2011 - 02:38 PM.


#22 Guitar

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 02:40 PM

Correct there mistakes,you have already said the machine is getting done by someone else with your artwork,so whats the big problem,and who do you think you are trying to tell me what i can and can't produce,how wrong can i be about people sometimes,what a first class dick you are.


So someone else is doing it so you dont have to do it properly?

I pointed out 5 things wrong with the layout, be a man and correct them would you. Its not like I'm picking on it being pixel perfect, just pointing out some issues. And instead of taking them on board like a man, you have ignored them and tried to tell me your black as f*** JPM logo was really grey if you looked closely.

At the end of the day, I was 100% correct in my observations, its not like I have accused you of something you haven't done, and in my first few posts I made it more than clear they were merely observations and not intended as a dig. I just thought you would take them on board, fix what you had control over, and release an even better layout. You ignored all that and went straight into defence mode like a child.

Also a comma or a full stop in a sentence should be followed by a space, an "I" meaning yourself should be capitalised, and what's has an apostrophe in it signifying the shortening from "what is".

If you are going to insult me at least do it in proper English.

Edited by Guitar, 12 June 2011 - 02:41 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 02:46 PM

My advice to you ,go finish ya emulator and then come back and we can all see if it lives upto the picture you paint!


My advice to you is to go learn spelling, grammar and punctuation.

Also if I can't criticise Tommy because I can't do artwork, you can't criticise my emulator because you haven't written one. Crappy rules I know but Mr House and Tommy made them earlier in the thread.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 02:54 PM

So someone else is doing it so you dont have to do it properly?

when you can do a proper job of it with the art i had then i will listen to you.

I pointed out 5 things wrong with the layout, be a man and correct them would you. Its not like I'm picking on it being pixel perfect, just pointing out some issues. And instead of taking them on board like a man, you have ignored them and tried to tell me your black as f*** JPM logo was really grey if you looked closely.

Erm no you said the logo was black i said it weren't,which it isn't,it's a tad dark.

At the end of the day, I was 100% correct in my observations, its not like I have accused you of something you haven't done, and in my first few posts I made it more than clear they were merely observations and not intended as a dig.

And once again bollocks,you was having a dig because i released a layout you sent pictures of to someone else to do.

I just thought you would take them on board, fix what you had control over, and release an even better layout. You ignored all that and went straight into defence mode like a child.

Like a child,mmmmmmmmmm i posted my thoughts in the post just after you posted your DIG,yet you come back with even more so i've responded,you think your mr big coder and your always right now do you?you could have done this via pm and i would have redone the whole layout to please you,but not when you pick at me in public.

Also a comma or a full stop in a sentence should be followed by a space, an "I" meaning yourself should be capitalised, and what's has an apostrophe in it signifying the shortening from "what is".

Sorry if my english grammer aint up to your standards.

If you are going to insult me at least do it in proper English.

I'm sure i spelt dick right didn't i?

#25 gemini17

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:01 PM

My advice to you is to go learn spelling, grammar and punctuation.

Also if I can't criticise Tommy because I can't do artwork, you can't criticise my emulator because you haven't written one. Crappy rules I know but Mr House and Tommy made them earlier in the thread.

lol aint a spelling or grammer test!!!
I never criticise anything or anyone,im more than greatfull for everything I obtain from the site.
I have like you made an observation.
I agree that projects can be delayed,yet giving a date for something like this and then such a delay takin place,leaves you open to speculation.Does it not?

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:04 PM

And once again bollocks,you was having a dig because i released a layout you sent pictures of to someone else to do.


LOL, is that why you think I am upset? Believe me I am more upset about the fact you have released it with glaring errors.

As you know I sent pics to ploggy, the reason it hasn't been released yet is because he is waiting for me to get pics of the machine with the lamps on so he can lamp it properly. Yes totally my fault for not getting back to him with them sooner but at least he was prepared to wait and get it right.

As you already admitted you just guessed based on a 10 year old memory (which is odd because you had the pictures to make the layout from which you could have looked at but whatever).

Quality > Quantity.

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#27 ady

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:05 PM

Come-on guy's calm down eh!

We all like a good bit of banter (I've given and taken it) but this is really going bad as I see it.

Okay theres issues I appriciate, but I don't know what they are about as I gave up reading tit-for-tat crap a few months back.

So whatever this is about surely all that needs said has been said before??

I have missed a bit of recient history somewhere obviously...but I can't understand why the last Two pages even exist!

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:09 PM

lol aint a spelling or grammer test!!!
I never criticise anything or anyone,im more than greatfull for everything I obtain from the site.
I have like you made an observation.
I agree that projects can be delayed,yet giving a date for something like this and then such a delay takin place,leaves you open to speculation.Does it not?


It does, but as I said, they werent my rules ;)

It's not a spelling and grammar test, but as this is an internet forum, people make assumptions about people based on what they see. If you post using correct grammar, full sentences, and, accurate spelling, it makes you look more professional / intelligent / sensible. Just a bit of advice, and that's not my rule, its a psychological fact on the way the human brain works.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:19 PM

LOL, is that why you think I am upset? Believe me I am more upset about the fact you have released it with glaring errors.

Glaring errors? i dxed what i was given after making everything presentable.

As you know I sent pics to ploggy, the reason it hasn't been released yet is because he is waiting for me to get pics of the machine with the lamps on so he can lamp it properly. Yes totally my fault for not getting back to him with them sooner but at least he was prepared to wait and get it right.

As i said earlier,i only knew that once i'd redone all the artwork and stitched everything together,sorry :notworthy:

As you already admitted you just guessed based on a 10 year old memory (which is odd because you had the pictures to make the layout from which you could have looked at but whatever).

Yes i did have pictures,but none of them were showing the lamps on,so it's you who's assuming again aint it.

Quality > Quantity.

Who said anything about quantity,i don't even know how many layouts i've made as i don't count em,i've had a few say i've rushed on things,this is not the case,i like to get stuck in and sometimes i'll sit at my pc for a full 8 hours,or more working on artwork.Like i said we'll wait for amber now then and hope it's gonna be picture perfect,compared to our much loved mfme.Like you said it would be,Then see if i can pick at you for anything petty.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:24 PM

I have missed a bit of recient history somewhere obviously...but I can't understand why the last Two pages even exist!


This is the thing, there is no history between me and Tommy C. At least not that I was aware of. There was an issue with me missing a few PM's from him among the hundreds of DOND requests in my inbox. When I found out what he wanted (to ask if he could do Aladdin, by crystal), I immediately PM'd him on Dads to apologise for missing said PMs and to tell him as soon as the emu was ready I would pass him a copy to start the layout on.

My original post was merely a gentle critique which included many disclaimers that I was not having a dig, that I loved the machine, and also said many times that the cabinet stuff and decals werent his fault.

Which is much more than I got in the critiques of my layouts I released many moons ago.

This was ignored totally, and I was then accused of having a dig, and that I wasnt allowed to say anything because my layouts are crap. And then the person with a website made for critiquing layouts starts to give me a hard time for pointing out exactly the same things as he does.

So whatever, apparently these forums want things as quickly as possible and hang the quality. Maybe if poor quality pissed people off more, this country wouldn't be as shit as it is.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:29 PM

Yes i did have pictures,but none of them were showing the lamps on,so it's you who's assuming again aint it.


So you immediately went to the PC and asked on a forum if someone could get you a lit picture? If only there was a forum full of people who know about fruit machines who might be able to get you one.

I'm not the only member of these forums with this actual machine, let alone those who have access to one in a nearby arcade, or has a friend who has one, or has pictures of one from years past, or possible glass scans?

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:34 PM

I have no issues with you either,and the pm's do not have no influence on what i wrote,i brung them up as you said i should have asked for some stuff via pm.like i siad if you would have pmed me and asked me to correct the faults,i'd have redrawn the bit's that were bugging you.But to many members would rather bring it in public,so it ends up getting to this point.I'm not a bitter person,and half this thread has made me :biglaugh: i never meant it as you can't comment as your crap with artwork <<<<<your comment not mine.I meant you do the job with the art i had and see it wasn't just as easy as sticking two glasses in a cab and releasing it,as you tried to make out.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:35 PM

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It does, but as I said, they werent my rules ;)

You answered my point.

I dont think anyone on here judges anyone-aint what the site is about :policeman:
Il take ya points on board for my next interview :biglaugh:

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:36 PM

I'm not the only member of these forums with this actual machine, let alone those who have access to one in a nearby arcade, or has a friend who has one, or has pictures of one from years past, or possible glass scans?

So yourr telling me all dx's released look exact like the real machine when it comes to lamping? erm no they don't

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:39 PM

This was ignored totally, and I was then accused of having a dig, and that I wasnt allowed to say anything because my layouts are crap. And then the person with a website made for critiquing layouts starts to give me a hard time for pointing out exactly the same things as he does.


Wrong.

I simple put that you were basing your comments on looking a picture without even firing up the layout.

You freely said when you posted you had not even bothered to play it as you were at work. That I find harsh to comment on layouts based on a picture, that is where I was coming from.

Pleasure to correct you.

Anyway, where is Amber has it been released and I missed the thread? I thought last weekend was for the dev builds to people and this weekend was for the public? :no:

Can we expect a June (2011) release?

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:41 PM

So yourr telling me all dx's released look exact like the real machine when it comes to lamping? erm no they don't


No they don't, but if no-one is allowed a friendly critique, they never will either.

I'm sure my layouts weren't either, but those that do, look stunning.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:46 PM

No they don't, but if no-one is allowed a friendly critique, they never will either.

I'm sure my layouts weren't either, but those that do, look stunning.


No, your layouts do NOT look stunning.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 04:00 PM

Guy's I have locked this thread as its going way off course...

When I get 5 i'll split and abyss the non release related replies and create it in its own thread.

I'm not taking 'any sides' as i'm totally unbias, I just don't think this is needed within a release thread.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 04:20 PM

I have removed the arguments from the release thread and attached them here...

Its to allow a release thread to be such and not WWIII.




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