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[Guitar]

Ok, as a MASSIVE fan of this era of JPM's I feel the need for a critique. This IS NOT intended to be nasty, hurtful, annoying or picking on you, but it may also seem quite harsh.

However you should also be aware that I freely admit I'm crap at artwork, so have ultimate respect for someone having a go and getting involved, but without a bit of constructive criticism, non eof us would improve.

1) Snake heads on the feature board should not be lit. The snakes are printed on the glass at the front, the square around the heads should be lit.

2) The £15 decal looks hideous, ok not your fault as it would seem the source art has these in, so what can you do, but a redraw would look better in the right font etc.

3) Reel number overlays are too big and also look like the wrong type.

4) Not your doing as its the same cab that has been doing the rounds, sorry to say it but it looks horrible, wrong colour, too basic, and the JPM logo was never black.

5) Ok this is a personal preference thing but I hate side art like that. I much prefer machines to be side-art-less, or something like retrofruit used to do and put a similar machine either side of it. But this is a personal thing, not sure you should change that if you like it.

Thats about it before I get home as I cant play it here, just look at the preview pic.

[Johnnyafc]

Ok, as a MASSIVE fan of this era of JPM's I feel the need for a critique. This IS NOT intended to be nasty, hurtful, annoying or picking on you, but it may also seem quite harsh.

However you should also be aware that I freely admit I'm crap at artwork, so have ultimate respect for someone having a go and getting involved, but without a bit of constructive criticism, non eof us would improve.

1) Snake heads on the feature board should not be lit. The snakes are printed on the glass at the front, the square around the heads should be lit.

2) The £15 decal looks hideous, ok not your fault as it would seem the source art has these in, so what can you do, but a redraw would look better in the right font etc.

3) Reel number overlays are too big and also look like the wrong type.

4) Not your doing as its the same cab that has been doing the rounds, sorry to say it but it looks horrible, wrong colour, too basic, and the JPM logo was never black.

5) Ok this is a personal preference thing but I hate side art like that. I much prefer machines to be side-art-less, or something like retrofruit used to do and put a similar machine either side of it. But this is a personal thing, not sure you should change that if you like it.

Thats about it before I get home as I cant play it here, just look at the preview pic.

'FME in Your Eyes'

Tonight Matthew Im going to be Mr House...

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Edited by Johnnyafc, 11 June 2011 - 07:05 PM.

[Mr House]

'FME in Your Eyes'

Tonight Matthew Im going to be Mr House...

LOL!

Very good!

[Guitar]

EDITED Can't even be arsed to respond,if you don't like don't play it

Fair enough I'll wait for a decent designer to release one then. In the mean time I'll just have to play the real thing.

[Guitar]

Decent designer? if your so good then you fu**in release a decent dx of it.

Well I tried to explain what was wrong with it. No designer worth his salt ignores criticism, what do you want me to say, thanks for ignoring me, more half finished layouts please?

I can't do a decent DX as discussed before, which is why I pass the resources to people I know A) can make a good layout, and B) will take the time to find out how the real thing looks.

I only tried to help, if you dont want to take notice its not my problem.

[Guitar]

what your not getting though is we don't all get pssed perfect artwork DO WE!!!

I didn't criticise the layout in terms of picture quality, I totally took on board the fact that the source pics weren't great, its the lamping of the snake heads I mainly criticised, which you DO have control over.

The only real artwork I criticised was the decals, which AS I SAID IN MY POST, isn't your fault.

Oh and the cabinet, which quite frankly you do have control over, and the JPM logo has NEVER EVER been black on the cabinet, you don't need to be a genius in photoshop to paint it grey.

right so if you can't do a decent dx who are you to tell me mine is shit eh

I own the real machine and I have eyes, just because I cant use photoshop doesnt mean I cant tell the difference between a drawing(layout) and the real thing.

I take critisism,i've had plenty over the years,but for you to try and make me look a dick in pulblic,nah i don't think so,thats why i chose to ignore you ned of.

I'm not trying to make you look like a dick in public (doing a pretty good job of that on your own now), I just pointed out some issues with the layout as relates to the real machine.

[Mr House]

You are far from a a "dick" Tommy, take no notice from this.

I am at a loss to understand why he's behaving like this as 1. he said those comments simply from look at a picture (on your release thread - regardless of owning the machine or not) and 2. it is people like you he needs to work on his Amber if it's released.

Why royally piss off the designers you need most to make your product a success, I do not know.

Edited by Mr House, 12 June 2011 - 12:48 PM.

[Guitar]

Well good for you,i don't own the real machine,so i lamped it how i think it would look.

So ASK how it should look ffs. Don't just guess.

[Guitar]

Yeah yours looks really grey.

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[Guitar]

I am at a loss to understand why he's behaving like this as 1. he said those comments simply from look at a picture (on your release thread - regardless of owning the machine or not) and 2. it is people like you he needs to work on his Amber if it's released.

Oh I'm sorry does the cabinet and snake heads change colour in the layout then?

Please carry on producing layouts that look nothing like the real machine, More Please!!!! - Whatever

Why royally piss off the designers you need most to make your product a success, I do not know.

My product will be a success based on the accuracy of emulation, which is pretty pointless if the layouts produced for it arent accurate.

I'm terribly sorry for trying to improve the quality of the released layouts.

Its not like I'm making any money from Amber so quite frankly if I piss off all the people who make shoddilly researched layouts so only the good ones get released, f*** yeah.

[Guitar]

Whatever, its a shit layout, badly researched, improperly lamped, and full of guesswork.

Please dont produce any layouts for my emulator, much better for my emu to be associated with quality whilst MFME gets sullied with ten-a-penny layouts produced by people who dont care enough to correct their mistakes.