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[mazza500]

I am wondering how is it possible for a machine to only pay out £20 of the duration of £130 being put in. 

 

The machine is set on a 80% payout, 10p stake with £5 JP. The machine is Gold Rush, Stampede, 4 player, sitdown. 

 

A lot of you know more than me so I am wondering how this is actually possible on a £5 jackpot machine? 

 

 

Information: 

 

There was not one gold rush top feature including stampede

 

Not one pound coin dropped / backed 

 

Jackpot was awarded only once with no hold, rest of the wins were small. 

 

Gold Rush bottom feature awarded Gold Spin which span Cherry's for a £1 win. This happened twice also no hold. 

 

 

Wondering if there is a proper explanation on how a machine can payout so badly along with everything else I have listed. 

 

 

Thanks in advance

Edited by mazza500, 12 July 2017 - 08:44 PM.

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I thought all 10p/£5 machines pay like crap, i keep off them if i go to the beach with the kids

 

 

[mazza500]

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I thought all 10p/£5 machines pay like crap, i keep off them if i go to the beach with the kids

 

 

 

Yeah they do but never this bad.

 

That is the machine. Robbing bastard

Edited by mazza500, 12 July 2017 - 09:07 PM.

[Guitar]

Leaving aside the possibility of hardware failure or dodgy roms, which though possible, is unlikely.

 

£5/10p machines don't make any real money for the manufacturers, they are an after thought to the £100 machines. The breweries and inland arcades are the ones they care about.

 

Most £5/10p machines are the same code as their bigger brothers with very little changes. Gold Rush is quite old and was on £25JP so this probably has a £75 streak in it. Assuming it was on 80% as you say, you would need to put £94 in which would cover a £75 streak with 20p to spare. And that assumes the machine pays only the streak out and no other wins.

 

As edwardb explained in his Compensation thread, lo tech machines tend to have more compensator pots, and only when they are full do they give a signal to pay. Every time you play off a credit, various fractions of that credit get added to different pots, and there are many different ways of doing it.

 

TL;DR you hit it at the wrong time.

[mazza500]

Leaving aside the possibility of hardware failure or dodgy roms, which though possible, is unlikely.

 

£5/10p machines don't make any real money for the manufacturers, they are an after thought to the £100 machines. The breweries and inland arcades are the ones they care about.

 

Most £5/10p machines are the same code as their bigger brothers with very little changes. Gold Rush is quite old and was on £25JP so this probably has a £75 streak in it. Assuming it was on 80% as you say, you would need to put £94 in which would cover a £75 streak with 20p to spare. And that assumes the machine pays only the streak out and no other wins.

 

As edwardb explained in his Compensation thread, lo tech machines tend to have more compensator pots, and only when they are full do they give a signal to pay. Every time you play off a credit, various fractions of that credit get added to different pots, and there are many different ways of doing it.

 

TL;DR you hit it at the wrong time.

 

I did have a feeling this was the case, must have been very unlucky. Been playing 10p - £5 for 11 years now and never have I had an experience like that. Thanks for the explanation  

[fruitman69]

Also that game has a hot slot on which if i remember from when we had it picks one each day to be hot and the other 3 have slightly less % although it wont go below its displayed %

Edited by fruitman69, 12 July 2017 - 09:44 PM.

[Guitar]

 

I did have a feeling this was the case, must have been very unlucky. Been playing 10p - £5 for 11 years now and never have I had an experience like that. Thanks for the explanation

 

I've done similar on a £5/10p Barcrest Revolution, though I was only £80 down not £130.

 

But I have had a fair bit of luck the other way. I had a Barcrest Big Brother in a kebab shop do £45 from JP+repeat twice in 2 boards for £90 out.

I had a BFM Cash Doctor (i think) do £75 on £5/10p. I also had £20 from JP+Repeat on a simpsons game, not quite as impressive until you play one at home on £5 and it never seems to repeat ever.

[fuzion]

I've seen people play a lot through them with very little return.  It all comes down to the streak size, which can be sizable on these as a result the base game isn't great.  I hit a 10p a go one for about £60 in Skegness a few years ago.   God knows how much some poor sod lost on it previously but I imagine the streak cycle is pretty big.

 

At some point hopefully these linked games might be emulated.

 

J