
laptop
Started by Toddyuk, May 18 2005 08:25 PM
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#1
Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:25 PM
This is abit off topic but i thought id ask you guys as you seem to be on the ball.
Am looking to buy a laptop as this will be my first laptop iam not up to speed with what i need ..
Iam not wanting to spend a fortune around £600 but i want a half decent one say 1.5ghz 15.4 screen and 40gb hard drive but i want a wireless network one, Now iam not sure what i should be looking for as i have seen a few saying 10/100 Lan and others saying something like 11b/g and i want to be able to use it with my broadband connection which is 2mb but dont want to lose any speed from this connection , Do i need the 10/100 Lan one or is it the b/g one and do i need to get a router aswell ....
Any advice ? Sorry to sound dumb
Am looking to buy a laptop as this will be my first laptop iam not up to speed with what i need ..
Iam not wanting to spend a fortune around £600 but i want a half decent one say 1.5ghz 15.4 screen and 40gb hard drive but i want a wireless network one, Now iam not sure what i should be looking for as i have seen a few saying 10/100 Lan and others saying something like 11b/g and i want to be able to use it with my broadband connection which is 2mb but dont want to lose any speed from this connection , Do i need the 10/100 Lan one or is it the b/g one and do i need to get a router aswell ....
Any advice ? Sorry to sound dumb
#2
Posted 18 May 2005 - 09:46 PM
You will not lose any speed from your broadband on the ethernet or the wireless G connection. Wireless G apparently runs at 54MB/s I have an E-machines laptop with wireless G and runs my 2MB broadband through a router, the chip runs at 2.5GHz so it's quick, It cost £649 from Dixons!!! and it's fantastic, has a 40GB HD 256MB RAM and a widescreen! 64MB 3D graphics card too... have a look at PC world/Dixons (UK) and see see what you can find.. Your Braodband connection wont even put a dent in your wireless connections bandwidth and will run at full speed, with ample headroom!
#3
Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:04 PM
Thanks for that dmaskeze , That helps alot ill look out for wireless G connection , seems like a good bargain that 2.5ghz . I have been looking at that Dell 6000 which sells at £557 at the moment its at 1.5ghz 40gb 512 ram ethernet connection its got some good reviews on laptop review site .
I have had a look in pc world and they also have some good bargains prob the cheapest ive seen and a good range .But as i say wasnt too sure what i needed..
Nice to know that my broadband would not be strangled by wireless that was prob one of my main concerns .. Thanks alot
I have had a look in pc world and they also have some good bargains prob the cheapest ive seen and a good range .But as i say wasnt too sure what i needed..
Nice to know that my broadband would not be strangled by wireless that was prob one of my main concerns .. Thanks alot

#4
Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:36 PM
Well, you DON'T want [and this is my humble opinion!]
64mb Shared [also called UMA] Graphics -
Nowhere NEAR as fast as say my 32mb Rad9000M chip, and a resource hog. When you consider the laptop only has 256mb RAM, you are only able to access 192mb because of the graphics subset and even that is damn apalling
2GHz+ Celeron, P4 or Athlon processors - unless you are next to a mains socket!
If you are like me and want mobility, then you really need to get a Centrino/Pentium M or one of the Athlon M processors that operate around 1.5GHz. You'll get 2x the battery life, and exactly the same performance as the equivalent processor [my Centrino 1.3GHz is approx a 2Ghz P4 if I remember]
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As for Wireless Networking, while I love the Centrino chipset and use the inbuild 802.11b on my laptop [yeah it's only 11mbit, but when my ADSL is 0.5mbit who cares?!], you CAN get a wireless laptop card or USB adaptor for about £15 these days, so don't reject a good laptop because it doesn't have it
If you really need Floppy Discs, don't forget to keep an eye on the specs. I reckon about 5% of current laptops have an FDD
IF you buy on eBay, for gods sake ask them for real life battery life figures. Many eBayers say 'includes battery', when it comes with a 100% dead battery and a replacement is, in my case, about £80 [thank god it still holds 4>5 hour charge on Solitaire
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64mb Shared [also called UMA] Graphics -
Nowhere NEAR as fast as say my 32mb Rad9000M chip, and a resource hog. When you consider the laptop only has 256mb RAM, you are only able to access 192mb because of the graphics subset and even that is damn apalling

2GHz+ Celeron, P4 or Athlon processors - unless you are next to a mains socket!
If you are like me and want mobility, then you really need to get a Centrino/Pentium M or one of the Athlon M processors that operate around 1.5GHz. You'll get 2x the battery life, and exactly the same performance as the equivalent processor [my Centrino 1.3GHz is approx a 2Ghz P4 if I remember]
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As for Wireless Networking, while I love the Centrino chipset and use the inbuild 802.11b on my laptop [yeah it's only 11mbit, but when my ADSL is 0.5mbit who cares?!], you CAN get a wireless laptop card or USB adaptor for about £15 these days, so don't reject a good laptop because it doesn't have it

If you really need Floppy Discs, don't forget to keep an eye on the specs. I reckon about 5% of current laptops have an FDD

IF you buy on eBay, for gods sake ask them for real life battery life figures. Many eBayers say 'includes battery', when it comes with a 100% dead battery and a replacement is, in my case, about £80 [thank god it still holds 4>5 hour charge on Solitaire

Ben
Hopefully recovering from years of compulsive gambling and wanting to be gamble free forever.
Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
Hopefully recovering from years of compulsive gambling and wanting to be gamble free forever.
Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
#5
Posted 18 May 2005 - 11:43 PM
Nice one cheers bencrest thats perfect advice for me i noticed alot of these laptops in the lower range were shared graphics and wasnt to sure what that meant ..
also having a 1.5ghz could be just as good as a p4 2ghz if you know what your looking for , now i do
Cheers
Iam taking a print out of this to my shop and demanding your specs ..
Cheers for this ben worth its weight in gold to me
also having a 1.5ghz could be just as good as a p4 2ghz if you know what your looking for , now i do

Iam taking a print out of this to my shop and demanding your specs ..
Cheers for this ben worth its weight in gold to me

#6
Posted 18 May 2005 - 11:46 PM
If it is cheapness you are after...
http://www.ebuyer.co...oduct_uid=86368
Best bets would be things like Acers at eBuyer, they recently had some GREAT Centrino based lappys in, from memory with decent Radeon graphics, for around £600.
Staples do sometimes get the Acer Centrinos in for about £500 as well.
When I go on about graphics, I guess if you don't intend to do graphically intensive work then 'Shared UMA' type graphics are fine, but it is seriously a waste of RAM - only consider it if the unit had 512mb of RAM and you know that you definately don't want to run anything more recent than Quake3
http://www.ebuyer.co...oduct_uid=86368
Best bets would be things like Acers at eBuyer, they recently had some GREAT Centrino based lappys in, from memory with decent Radeon graphics, for around £600.
Staples do sometimes get the Acer Centrinos in for about £500 as well.
When I go on about graphics, I guess if you don't intend to do graphically intensive work then 'Shared UMA' type graphics are fine, but it is seriously a waste of RAM - only consider it if the unit had 512mb of RAM and you know that you definately don't want to run anything more recent than Quake3

Ben
Hopefully recovering from years of compulsive gambling and wanting to be gamble free forever.
Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
Hopefully recovering from years of compulsive gambling and wanting to be gamble free forever.
Recommended reading - http://www.gamblersaloud.com/ (yes, I bought the book, very happy with it!)
#7
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 11:55 PM
Just a word of warning ebuyer are great if the item purchased works but a right c*** to get hold of if it f***s up.
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Posted 19 May 2005 - 01:02 AM
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