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Do you think %'s are in your favour when you play.

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#1 NickYerPesos

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 02:14 PM

ok... this afternoon i went down my pub in my break from college, and i played the FUNNY MONEY machine.
Now... normally this machine p[ays like a piece of shit... but today i won £30 from £9 (£8, then £6, Then £8,£6 and£2) (throughout the £9) i was pleased... but why does it wait till its so far over its percentage to play nicely...
Is this gonna change with all these new machines coming out, or is this machine just evil. :evil:
Ive noticed Bottle Bank (VIVID), will play a good feature every£4, giving £2-£5,.
HmMMMmmm, i no its worked out well for me, but it has killed my bank balance so many times before. Y does it do this. is it legal to keep its percentage back like this... I no fruit machines are SHITE anyway when your playing for real money, but i think it should be like every £10 it pays about £7. What do you think.

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 03:15 PM

if you play it like an imbread-jed and take your £2-£5 on every board, you are totally destroying the percentage. chipped vivids like these re still playable if played right. i only ever forced for the column on the left had side as the top features are shit (£15 etc.)

when you can tell its got to that good mood stage, start holding reds and a red above the view line, eventually it will nudge or give you an IM board. take the left had column (gamble all you nudges and nudge the fruits in)

sorry to FME if you prefer not to have guides posted, i`ll post them private next time.

#3 Bencrest

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 03:16 PM

Lol nothing wrong with giving up information - EVERYTHING wrong with impolitely demanding emptiers :D
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 03:17 PM

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#5 CoasterDesignerpro

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 05:25 PM

It depends on the percentage the machine is set at this is my representation-

70-78% don't expect a repeat if there is a repeat £60+ must of been put in

80-88% repeats happen alot to the top percentages

90+ very frequent features high repeats happen.

Overall its the amount you put in to get lots out.

#6 ziggy

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 07:24 PM

Funny money, you must mean the Impulse machine from about 5 years back.Dont know how you managed to accumulate £30 from £9 just collecting wins but well done anyway.

I know its been said before but the percentage is only really in your favour if the machine hasnt paid big for a while.An example being a Nobles arcade nearby with all hi-techs on 88 % and lo's on 90 %.now lets say its streaked before you have played it then the 90% setting really isnt in your favour as the machine will be needing to get back to its target %, which can take a while, especially if your playing Bottle Bank !

Chances are the machine your playing ( unless in an arcade ) is on a sub 80 % payout, which in my opinion is HARD WORK !

#7 pash

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 08:16 PM

all the arcades in the centre of glasgow have most of their machines set to 70% its really sad

#8 Bencrest

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 11:40 PM

Just noticed, heres how one of my locals has gone :

78% Barcrest Party Animal [reasonable]
78% BFG Jackpot Junction [apalling]
74% Barcrest SuperCharges [not too bad!]
70% Red Gaming Paint the Town red [shockingly bad!]

Thats a small, local pub. They simply can't sustain the £25 JP anymore, and pay rental and license costs. To be honest, it is the supplier rather than the pub making cash out of any deal like that.

No wonder I ended up supplying machines on 50/50 profit share basis to local pubs, who were MAKING A LOSS on £25 AWPS [...trust me, I saw the books!].

Think about it - they pay about £30 a week for the machine. Thats £120 per month. They also have a £780ish license they need every year. Thats another £60 per month.

Thats £180 of PROFIT they need to make per month just to BREAK EVEN. Forget putting in £10, losing it, and thinking 'they've made £10'. They haven't, the next punter will no doubt get most of that £10.

It's disgusting, and I can't believe that we have a £25 JP at all. It isn't really the percentage payout to blame. A £15 JP AWP on 70% will play a hell of a lot better than a £25 JP AWP on 70%.

Well, thats enough whinging from me, I have my stupidly small Argos bright blue T-shirt ready for tomorrows 'cat 63 launch', I think I have the right to moan :)
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 11:53 PM

am i right in saying that 70% stickers are made, however the legal minumum is 72%?

my local is 88-92% :o

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 11:58 PM

hmmm, no. the legal min is 70%

btw, wot is that setting on a % Key (all off) all about. Optimal percentage. wtf is optimal percentage?

#11 Bencrest

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:04 AM

%key, all off?

I know that, on my Spiker as an example, the recommended settings were :

Stake - 30p
Jackpot - £15
Percentage - 80%

If you remove the Stake/Prize and Percentage keys, the machine starts in NOKEY mode, and will run at those settings. They are the settings Barcrest recommended to offer an entertaining, yet profitable!
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#12 PJ

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 11:06 AM

The Pie Factory 2 (hiss hiss :evil:) at my local station has always declared 72%, and has played like a c*** since it arrived there last year (taking £350-400 for each ±£70 streak with the red chefs - never seen the 3 Vivids in!), and just yesterday I was informed by the buffet manager that the engineer had been in, and his key showed it was set to 70%, but he was not authorised to reset it to the declared 72%, nor change the label to 70%!

Is a law being broken here, or are the %'s set purely by the mfr's? Could I sue for the cash I'd lost before quitting, as I could say I was playing under the impression of 72%, when it was actually lower!

That could be like putting a fiver on a dog at 6-1, and only getting winnings based on 5-1, as a broad example...


And %'s are certainly not 'gay', otherwise they'd be something I'd like quite a lot... :wink:
Winning is not a crime...

NEITHER IS SWEARING!!!

#13 CoasterDesignerpro

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 05:08 PM

I was in a seaside arcade today playing a £5 10p top slot. The front says it pays no less than 78%, as you all know the win plan is £1=X £5= ASTRA and £5= JACKPOT. I put £20 in and not £1 out I think that this machine is rigged to 70% than 78%. I was playing Top Slot number 1.

What do you all think?

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 10:39 PM

You mean Pie Factory 2 actually streaks?
No, I never got the jackpots either. There is a 'steal' to get them apparently but I doubt it would start a streak.
As far as I'm aware there is no segregation of pots. So a jackpot from feature is same as slow roll in red chefs for jackpot.
Terrible machine.
Top Slot.
Hard to say.
Seaside arcade? I think £5 TS has a 70% setting. Doesn't mean it's fixed down there but with a seaside arcade it wouldn't surprise me.
Stick to trying a lucky quid. The hi-techs are bloomin' hard enough in these places, never mind the lo-techs!




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