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[Geddy]

I'll have a play, maybe find a sollution for us all to utilise. Or has someone else already done this, do tell us more.

AFAIK no one has made a CMPro dat that utilises folders. I'm fairly sure CMPro does not like folders so I doubt it can be done. Another method might be needed if you want folders.

EDIT - Sorry just tried using list tool (which I use for the dats) and even if you scan a set of folders CMPro will rebuild them into zips not separate folders. I would suggest if you want layouts in separate folders that you use Winrar to extract them all into separate folders (can be done all in one go) and then do the same for the roms. Unfortunately you would have to put all the roms into layout folders by hand, this would be a true arse ache as a great deal of the roms in the dat are not emulated so are technically unneeded to play the games.

Edited by Geddy, 25 August 2009 - 07:29 PM.

[Reelz]

AFAIK no one has made a CMPro dat that utilises folders. I'm fairly sure CMPro does not like folders so I doubt it can be done. Another method might be needed if you want folders.

Something i didn't realise that cmpro would have a problem with. If the dat has it, i'm sure cmpro would go and do it. As you say the dat needs to have it to pass to cmpro to understand it.

I know barcrest johhny above just said his are all sorted into folders. Maybe a poll to see how many prefers which folder structure they like.

I read roms and layouts needs to be seperate, cannot be released together in one folder. Whats the reasoning behind this, that they have to be seperate. Is this still relevant today in 2009.

I'm sure if were packaged into individual machine folders, nothing would come of it.

[Reelz]

Geddy can you check the snapshots dats before next update, all three needed a rebulid. But not for the problem below, must be something else.

Info.. mfme - snapshots
Classic_Tuppenny_Nudger_(mdm)_[C01_v2-00_800_3jp].jpg - size and crc incorrect


I could and still may get all to correct folders, but if next updates are the same why bother. So will lump all files into relevant emulator folder.

Mmm no i won't as then i'll still need to sort them.

Oh well maybe i will just have to have one big horrible messy folder, that will take forever to open and interact directly at any time. Its going to be like well erm, i cannot think of any setup i have like it ever, it'll be yuk thats for sure.


Suggestions.

Get rid of the underline scores _ in all files and dats (where they replace spaces) it's really not needed.

Make at least the roms like is with layouts and snapshots. So they are in relevant emulator folders. JPERoms .. MFMERoms .. etc

Have tried unsorted the rom files split into thirds and into three seperated folders. It does make a difference.


way of topic...
But still would be ideal***** if you did make it possible for the archive to have.
FruitMachineAll its files in here
Then same for each and every other fruit machine.
Ideal (5* uk tv program, well i like it. And like its theme tune ident by Candidate – Song of the Oss)

[Geddy]

Geddy can you check the snapshots dats before next update, all three needed a rebulid. But not for the problem below, must be something else.

Info.. mfme - snapshots
Classic_Tuppenny_Nudger_(mdm)_[C01_v2-00_800_3jp].jpg - size and crc incorrect

Attached is the correct one for the next dat. Although I cannot see what error you mean.

I could and still may get all to correct folders, but if next updates are the same why bother. So will lump all files into relevant emulator folder.

Mmm no i won't as then i'll still need to sort them.

Oh well maybe i will just have to have one big horrible messy folder, that will take forever to open and interact directly at any time. Its going to be like well erm, i cannot think of any setup i have like it ever, it'll be yuk thats for sure.

That is why I guess I have two folders for each set. One is ready to play with everything unzipped and the other is all zipped so I can make the dats. I guess if I make a dat for my ready to play set and you let CMPro rebuild from your layouts and roms it will give you everything you need in one HUGE zip then all you will have to do is unzip it. Bingo - one folder with everything in you need and nothing you do not rom wise.

Suggestions.

Get rid of the underline scores _ in all files and dats (where they replace spaces) it's really not needed.

Sorry but THEY ARE NEEDED, in fact they are VITAL. MFME does not read 'spaces' hence the underscores are in there..... hey I think of everything hehe.

Make at least the roms like is with layouts and snapshots. So they are in relevant emulator folders. JPERoms .. MFMERoms .. etc

Do you mean make a layout zip of roms/layouts together for each 'game?' Yeah that can be done but as I explained years ago the rom dat is not just for emulated roms. It is for all FME roms even those that do not work. They are not primarily designed for FME users but more emulation collectors.

Have tried unsorted the rom files split into thirds and into three seperated folders. It does make a difference.

Not sure what you mean here..... sorry.

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[Reelz]

Yes after using on pcs from 1ghz to 3ghz over ide and sata. I find with all in one folder a right royal pain. Like when needing to enter that folder then to look at something, say in a txt viewer or hex whatever. It takes xp no its xp eplorer years to even do anything about it. So by making the folder with less files is beneficial.

Still think this could be better, as you need roms together, to at least think of it like this.

Same folder structor for all emulators.

BFmulator
|- Layouts
|- Roms
|- Shots

A simple user setup then could be easily be setup quickly, makes updating also very easy.

BFmulator
|- Layouts
|- Roms
|- Shots
|- BFMulator_Machines - (example where user could easily put all files for this emulator into, very quickly. No sorting needed to be done at all.

This also would help stop xp explorer maxing out cpu when entering the folder. Small is better than large gb file folders.

Does vista 7 have the same problem as xp. No matter how many cpu cores or gb memory a mb has on it. I guess it could be a windows inherited problem, but not sure if other os.

The above examples are not just about xp explorer maxing out etc. But to keep folder sizes down, and for better emulator managment, housekeeping etc etc. While making installing setup and updating for user, very easy tasks to do.

[Geddy]

Still think this could be better, as you need roms together, to at least think of it like this.

Okay...... I'm waiting for your solution. Bear in mind I have been doing these dats for years and cannot get to where I want them to be to please everyone with the restraints of either CMPro or the way the emulators work. Remember these are not designed to help make the playing of the layouts easier but rather to help 'collectors' see what we have.... I think you are forgetting that important fact.

Same folder structor for all emulators.

BFmulator
|- Layouts
|- Roms
|- Shots

Would not work like I said because CMPro does not handle folders and BFeMu would not find the roms in a separate folder to run the game. All 'files' for BFeMu layouts have to be together either in one folder or one zip.

This also would help stop xp explorer maxing out cpu when entering the folder. Small is better than large gb file folders.

Why would you even want to open the big folder? Let the game manager read it's contents from the emulator.

Does vista 7 have the same problem as xp. No matter how many cpu cores or gb memory a mb has on it. I guess it could be a windows inherited problem, but not sure if other os.

Nasel sex.... I use XP and MacOS so I cannot answer.

The above examples are not just about xp explorer maxing out etc. But to keep folder sizes down, and for better emulator managment, housekeeping etc etc. While making installing setup and updating for user, very easy tasks to do.

TBH the way I update and manage the system I use could not be any easier I assure you. Get a new layout, rename it and add it to it's parent zip.... simple.

[Reelz]

Mmm i see the whole problem of this and IF the roms were sorted in emus like with layouts and shots. Would make a whole lot easier to setup quickly. HAve just seperated roms for bfm and jpu. Then unpacked all into emu folder.
Fruit Emulations
|- Roms (original packed)
|- Layouts (original packed)
|- Shots (original)
|- BFMulator Fruit Machines (unpacked roms, layouts and shots in here)

The same for the other emus except mfme which original packed archives are elsewhere. Because of its dumb manager.

This way Like your setup but ordered to emus directory.

Your updates need very little work, just seperate the roms to the emu they work on like is for the layouts.


These emus are years out of date, as you say problems with naming and folders for mfme. Besides all having poor support for zip packed files, should be easy to add in both. But only if they were to be updated.

Maybe these emus we have should be forgotten and get mame to run all the machines instead. Only because mame is well maintained regulary.


I think many machines have a problem will look later. Going through mfme usualy run 1024x768, made a new gfx card profile for 1280x1024 and went through some mfme machines. Upto letter B found many that refused to work or couldn't find roms. Think some could be mfme v3 only (tried back door open|close still not). But finding no roms will check later in each .gam for naming maybe find the problem there, let you know.

Also noted in registry that mfme has aspect and resize options. Don't seem to work for v9 or 10. Maybe there is another switch for those versions, tried registry modify with 1 which didn't work. I wonder if after all v9 and v10 can resize like v3 can do. Running v3 doesn't change the registry for those options, so maybe just for v9 or v10 ?

[kriss]

When is the DVD packed full of Fruit Machines available for sale on fleabay

[Reelz]

I don't know, when is it ? (it's a joke you mean, were waitng for the punchline)

I don't browse or use auction sites, if it isn't a joke question.