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#41 £6 In Tokens

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:04 PM

Good luck to the guys behind this new site.
Stop with the Ex addicts argument. Front page always has an ad for cyberslotz.


Paid for I believe.............

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:24 PM

I'll be blunt! I reckon you're trying to drum up trade by accessing the most popular fruit machine site on the net where you know full well there will be people who have or have had a problem with gambling and who are likely to sign up to your site.

This cobblers about freeplay is a total washout as we already have 1000s of 'pub style' machines to play on our computers - that's what FME is all about and why we're all here. They're also true emulations and not glorified simulations so don't think you're doing us a favour by adding this freeplay option to your games - we simply don't need it.

This is just my personal feelings on this matter, but I reckon a few people will share my views.


An addict will play regardless whether its freeplay or pay to play the argument is bollocks just because a person self bars them self from the Red lion pub does not mean he would not go to the one accross the road does it?

I would question the validity of free advertisement might as well have a link to Billy Hills on the front page as FME is about real machines not made up machines never seen in the wild.

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Stop shit stirring for shit stirrings sake its boring the f*****g life out of me every f*****g thread is turned into a moral crusade, you yourself have made simulations is that not encoraging gambling in some form? I say it once more.......

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:28 PM

[quote name='£6 In Tokens']Paid for I believe..



Doubt it's paid for.

More like commison per new sign up.
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:37 PM

An addict will play regardless whether its freeplay or pay to play the argument is bollocks just because a person self bars them self from the Red lion pub does not mean he would not go to the one accross the road does it?

I would question the validity of free advertisement might as well have a link to Billy Hills on the front page as FME is about real machines not made up machines never seen in the wild.

@jamesb8746573948574857348975384

Stop shit stirring for shit stirrings sake its boring the f*****g life out of me every f*****g thread is turned into a moral crusade, you yourself have made simulations is that not encoraging gambling in some form? I say it once more.......

HYPOCRITE!!


Wait a second the only shit stirring on here seems to be you here?? but then again the pubs shut early on a sunday don't they.
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:42 PM

Wait a second the only shit stirring on here seems to be you here?? but then again the pubs shut early on a sunday don't they.


Try harder is that all you can do is have a pop about my drinking jesus h christ you also look rather stupid as I have not had a thing to drink (less you count Coca Cola), now answer my question.

'you yourself have made simulations is that not encoraging gambling in some form?'

Now you just had a pop at me for no aparant reason and what do I see Fruit Forums is a little bit dead quelle suprise.

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:45 PM

Try harder is that all you can do is have a pop about my drinking jesus h christ you also look rather stupid as I have not had a thing to drink (less you count Coca Cola), now answer my question.

'you yourself have made simulations is that not encoraging gambling in some form?'

Now you just had a pop at me for no aparant reason and what do I see Fruit Forums is a little bit dead quelle suprise.


I have made more posts on here than you in the last year you arrogant little shit. I also covered both sides of a post considering out my opinions on a thread (something you could never do), all you can ever do is swear at people - although you have at least learnt how to do bold writing now - so well done. You have not added or contributed to the thread you just wanted to come in and insult people as usual - try and be more constructive and if you truly have managed to give up alcohol then I am truly pleased for you, now all you need to do is get over the chip on your shoulder and your abusive nature.
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:46 PM

Will you two ever kiss and make up :D

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:49 PM

I have made more posts on here than you in the last year you arrogant little shit. I also covered both sides of a post considering out my opinions on a thread (something you could never do), all you can ever do is swear at people - although you have at least learnt how to do bold writing now - so well done. You have not added or contributed to the thread you just wanted to come in and insult people as usual - try and be more constructive and if you truly have managed to give up alcohol then I am truly pleased for you, now all you need to do is get over the chip on your shoulder and your abusive nature.


You just answered my question perfectly you are not actually here for FME but for to bait and cause shite you do not know f*** all about me yet consider yourself an expert on me how tragic.

Now back to my original question

'you yourself have made simulations is that not encoraging gambling in some form?'

You still have yet to answer that one mr morals.

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:50 PM

Hey I love him really :-)

actually strike that - I don't massively care either way and I certainly don't hate him, don't care massively either way :-) I just can't help responding :-)

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I actually have tried to give the guy encouragement and have not mentioned I hate gambling or didn't want to encourage it so not sure who your question is aimed at? However assuming it's me then no I don't believe simulations encourage gambling - they can actually be a crutch to help stop it.
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:51 PM

I'll do some play testing. What's the wage like?

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:54 PM

What about a LOCK OUT FOR LIFE button? Hit it and your IP address will be logged, or your email address, and you can't ever sign up?


I play Bingo online a fair bit, and this option is there..........though I have never used it, a thing I regret afterwards.

I'd suggest adding a maximum spend on the sign-up as a condition, therefore if you did win you couldn't literally 'blow-it' asap.

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 09:58 PM

I play Bingo online a fair bit, and this option is there..........though I have never used it, a thing I regret afterwards.

I'd suggest adding a maximum spend on the sign-up as a condition, therefore if you did win you couldn't literally 'blow-it' asap.


But whats to stop a person using another card/email or whatever is needed to sign up its pointless to have such a thing a person that is a true adict will find a way to get their fix.

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 10:00 PM

I use the ban yourself option when I have used my set limit on Mecca Bingo every month just to stop me being tempted to spend more than I planned and it does work - problem is though I'm sure if you are in the cycle it's not as easy as that. I guess though if people really want to gamble they could do it anywhere (my mate even bets with his dad all the time - even on stuff like what they are having for tea - and it's serious money) so I think they hardcore gambler will always find a way around an exclusion...
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 10:11 PM

I use the ban yourself option when I have used my set limit on Mecca Bingo every month just to stop me being tempted to spend more than I planned and it does work - problem is though I'm sure if you are in the cycle it's not as easy as that. I guess though if people really want to gamble they could do it anywhere (my mate even bets with his dad all the time - even on stuff like what they are having for tea - and it's serious money) so I think they hardcore gambler will always find a way around an exclusion...


Thats my point mate I suppose a ban yourself button might make the house happy and warm inside that they are doing something to help the gambler but in reality its as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

I went to Blackpool on a short break recently with my lass (she is a shrink) I suggested going into Coral Island (I think it was) to look for a House of the Dead 4 f*** me I might as well suggested bricking her car.

I asked her about it other day why she reacted the way she did her answer was just in case I played the machines strange really I thought, I said to her 'just cos you go to a pub does not mean you have to drink beer' suppose that works for me but not others there is far more access to machines than beer in this day and age cos pubs are closing.

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 10:15 PM

I'll be blunt! I reckon you're trying to drum up trade by accessing the most popular fruit machine site on the net where you know full well there will be people who have or have had a problem with gambling and who are likely to sign up to your site.

This cobblers about freeplay is a total washout as we already have 1000s of 'pub style' machines to play on our computers - that's what FME is all about and why we're all here. They're also true emulations and not glorified simulations so don't think you're doing us a favour by adding this freeplay option to your games - we simply don't need it.

This is just my personal feelings on this matter, but I reckon a few people will share my views.


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Posted 09 November 2008 - 10:19 PM

This Peter guy has read his Relationship Marketing manual religiously it seems. Pitching this new venture the way he has is quite clever, trying to make out its for the greater good etc. But in an earlier post he claims he's in it for the love of playable machines that the world has now lost - because himself wouldn't touch a 50p per play machine. But he's offering just that... 50p £35jp, why is that option even available if he knows the playability factor will be removed?

Another point, if people want to play 'AWP' machines for gambling purposes, then Microgaming has a whole range of them based around UK pub slots, licensed out to over 20 casino sites, so this 'new' idea has already been done, which makes me think its solely to cash in on whatever potential this perceived niche has - just with different games.

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 10:32 PM

This Peter guy has read his Relationship Marketing manual religiously it seems. Pitching this new venture the way he has is quite clever, trying to make out its for the greater good etc. But in an earlier post he claims he's in it for the love of playable machines that the world has now lost - because himself wouldn't touch a 50p per play machine. But he's offering just that... 50p £35jp, why is that option even available if he knows the playability factor will be removed?

Another point, if people want to play 'AWP' machines for gambling purposes, then Microgaming has a whole range of them based around UK pub slots, licensed out to over 20 casino sites, so this 'new' idea has already been done, which makes me think its solely to cash in on whatever potential this perceived niche has - just with different games.


Matrix, never a truer word said, my thoughts exactly.

He's got the people in place to get this site up and running, but is lost on ideas for games, that's what he wants help for. This is why he's here to pick our brains for the best ideas.

I tell you something - Give him the help he wants and you'll never hear from him again.

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 11:51 AM

What about a LOCK OUT FOR LIFE button? Hit it and your IP address will be logged, or your email address, and you can't ever sign up? We could also cross reference credit card details so even if players used another computer they still couldn't play for real? This way the free option is the only option for some.

Help us guys, it's easy to lay into us but a lot harder to tell us what you see are the problems so we can at least attempt to fix them. It's why we're here.

Your best off blocking the pcs mac address which would mean a whole new nic
card which most people woldent now how to change but even a mac block woldent stop people gambling only the person who is gambling can stop them selves best you can do is offer a gamcare link or such forth if they say there addicted and wish them well in future endeavours and hope they recover as for credit cards you would also need to block every money depositing tool ie money bookers from the players account which would be dam near impossible beacuse with moneybooker all it takes is new adress and bank account to use again people who want to gamble will gamble regardless of any meassure you use to stop them..

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 11:52 AM

Yes I do ramble on a bit in case you feel the need to tell me again gary chandler or whatever name your under now ..




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