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[jackpotjon05]

Don't know if any of you are aware, but if anyone has played ''Star Wars A New Hope'' on the Triple 777 cabinet and just like the Rainbow Party Games, the game is linked, so a ''red'' bonus will trigger both machines to go into the community feature.

 

However, if some of you have played the more recent game, but on the Triple 8 cabinet, the games are not linked..... in comes the ''red community'' and only 1 of 2 machines will go into this bonus, which defeats the object of a community machine.

 

Apparently the reason this game hasn't had an update is due to some sort of software issue because of some scam going around.

The update keeps getting put back, according to the owners of the arcade and yet this machine has been around for a couple of years now, but still nothing?

 

I really can't understand why a Triple 7 would work perfectly fine, but yet a newer, better cabinet will not?

 

Does anyone in the know, know if anything is arriving any time soon, or is it something that isn't going to happen?

 

Seems so stupid to have a community game that advertises ''community'' but it obviously isn't, it's kind of unfair and in a way is misleading and false because it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

 

Any update on this would be greatly appreciated, as love the machine, but really only plays ''half'' a game.

 

 

[nails]

are any of the other games in community mode?  if not then the machines are not linked.

 

I`ll go on the barcrest bullit in board and see if any updates exist

[gemini17]

Don't know if any of you are aware, but if anyone has played ''Star Wars A New Hope'' on the Triple 777 cabinet and just like the Rainbow Party Games, the game is linked, so a ''red'' bonus will trigger both machines to go into the community feature.

 

However, if some of you have played the more recent game, but on the Triple 8 cabinet, the games are not linked..... in comes the ''red community'' and only 1 of 2 machines will go into this bonus, which defeats the object of a community machine.

 

Apparently the reason this game hasn't had an update is due to some sort of software issue because of some scam going around.

The update keeps getting put back, according to the owners of the arcade and yet this machine has been around for a couple of years now, but still nothing?

 

I really can't understand why a Triple 7 would work perfectly fine, but yet a newer, better cabinet will not?

 

Does anyone in the know, know if anything is arriving any time soon, or is it something that isn't going to happen?

 

Seems so stupid to have a community game that advertises ''community'' but it obviously isn't, it's kind of unfair and in a way is misleading and false because it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

 

Any update on this would be greatly appreciated, as love the machine, but really only plays ''half'' a game.

 

 

During the summer months there was a gameplay cheat on most community featured games and some arcades lost 10's of thousands-which some members may applaud!

This was on the majority of the £100 community games and the £500 community games.

Most arcades have had software updates but while most have restored the community features -some refuse to because of the losses they had.

Aside this most community games run via a net connection and this can sometimes fail-which then stops the community feature taking place.

 

Tis annoying though when u do get a community game and you are playing two games but one of them is not linked-been there got the badge and t-shirt

 

Jay

[jackpotjon05]

Ah I see gemini 17, I was told that some scam was going around by different managers at various locations, so that's it then.

 

They told me that an update is due, but keeps getting put back and nothing seems to be happening.

 

If you could find out ''Nails'' and let me know, that would be great.

 

I am going to push them for it, as know of 3/4 locations and none of them work, but still work fine on the Triple 7 which doesn't make sense.

 

There is also an issue of false advertising, as surely if a machine advertises a 'community' then it MUST be offered.

 

It's a bit like walking into a shop and buying an item that describes something, then you buy it and it doesn't happen.

 

You pay your money, but not getting what you are told? Not right is it?

[jackpotjon05]

No Nails, the only community game on there is Star wars and Money Mad Martians and none of them are linked.

 

It's making me wander if they COULD be linked, but maybe they just don't want to?

 

Even so, I will push for it, going back the advertising thing again.

[gemini17]

Ah I see gemini 17, I was told that some scam was going around by different managers at various locations, so that's it then.

 

They told me that an update is due, but keeps getting put back and nothing seems to be happening.

 

If you could find out ''Nails'' and let me know, that would be great.

 

I am going to push them for it, as know of 3/4 locations and none of them work, but still work fine on the Triple 7 which doesn't make sense.

 

There is also an issue of false advertising, as surely if a machine advertises a 'community' then it MUST be offered.

 

It's a bit like walking into a shop and buying an item that describes something, then you buy it and it doesn't happen.

 

You pay your money, but not getting what you are told? Not right is it?

The more high tech the games get,the more open to scams and cheats they become.

And sadly it spoils it for the many people who still enjoy a punt for some fun.

Bring back the token machines-can't ever recall cheats going around on them.

Real hate individuals having advantages over people-to me its just another form of petty theft!

 

Jay

[NickYerPesos]

There are so many flaws and emptiers that are constantly being updated, many of which joe public doesn't even get a whiff of because it's so quick. So clearly something was discovered and if it's been longer than a few months then I would suggest that something in the back end of the software is of the trip 8 is causing this error, therefore probably won't be coming back online.

[jackpotjon05]

I have to agree gemini 17, all these people are is just a thieving scum.

 

Where on earth do the scams start from, and how do they know they exist?

 

I mean.............. If I walked into an arcade and saw a new game, I wouldn't know if it had a cheat or not.

 

How would you know and what do they do to machines to find out?

 

It makes you wander if there is someone big on the inside, who has contacts on the outside........... let them know how to break it and get a backhander = 

 

easy money when you think about it.

 

Someone is designing these machines, (say it was me for an example) it wouldn't be hard to get few mates together and send them out there to scam machines.

 

Wouldn't be surprised that's this is what's going on.

 

Sorry to waffle on, but I take it that's why the Triple 7 cabs are still ''community'' because there was no scam on this model? 

[nails]

basically you could play 2 machines at once on different stakes, the £1 or £2 play game was your machines to drop the jackpot, and the 2nd machine was helping you with the community feature. you could drop a gold pot and then get a free chance of dropping a pot again.

 

not really a cheat, but an over sight.

[spa]

But I will say if a compensated game like win big shindig was ready to pay and a linked unit was not, the ready unit would not give feature while in community.

[gemini17]

basically you could play 2 machines at once on different stakes, the £1 or £2 play game was your machines to drop the jackpot, and the 2nd machine was helping you with the community feature. you could drop a gold pot and then get a free chance of dropping a pot again.

 

not really a cheat, but an over sight.

 

But I will say if a compensated game like win big shindig was ready to pay and a linked unit was not, the ready unit would not give feature while in community.

Oversight or not on the manufactures part!

Many caught on to the oversight and took thousands out of the arcades.

And whilst I know many arcades do take advantage of people with poor percentages etc-I only see the above as adding to the demise of arcades.

And as jackpotjon says it is theft,whether an oversight in the game or not.

I did like the £100 community games but now new programes are installed they don't play the same and many have so many faults now,that they did not used to encounter.

Just seems to me that with better tech comes greater risk to flaws and potential scams in the games-bring back the £2 jackpots and dump this high tech DOND garbage-preferably in room 101

And I agree with Spa's point too

 

Jay

Edited by gemini17, 30 November 2015 - 12:29 AM.

[fruitman69]

Hi,

 

Im sorry Gemini and Jackpotjon, but the fact your referring to people playing a software bug/cheat as thieving scum I find a bit laughable and not really true.

 

I doubt there is anyone on this entire site ( both of you and me included )  that if they found a way to play a machine in a way to always win that they wouldn't do so, if it was just playing the machine normally rather than using devices etc, so does that make us all scum?  I think not.

 

No fruit machine player has ever said these words  " I found a cheat on that machine to win every time I play it, Im going to contact the manufacturer at the soonest opportunity to tell them so they can correct it "

 

 

As for the errors, from my many years experience many cheats are actually found by accident while playing the machine, I know this from finding a few myself over the years, from silly ones worth a few quid to major ones.

 

Also final software isn't down to one person and if someone was to put in a bug in deliberately even if it wasn't found before release once it was they would be in big hot water eg  job gone and jail time most likely.

 

 

As for the community games, I have never been a fan due to some of the issues you have already raised, for example the community wins are all paid for by contributions, so effectively short term you could win less or more of your contributed share, not really fair in many regards.

 

Finally,  token machines had no cheats ??  you kidding they were rife back then, 

 

the 777 heaven one being the biggest of that era due to the sheer volume of machines around, making hundreds and  hundreds a day  in todays money  thousands!

 

Just my "10p's"  worth  nothing personal. <<<<<  ( like what I did there    )   hint clue to cheat....

 

Steve

Edited by fruitman69, 01 December 2015 - 07:12 PM.

[gemini17]

Hi,

 

Im sorry Gemini and Jackpotjon, but the fact your referring to people playing a software bug/cheat as thieving scum I find a bit laughable and not really true.

 

I doubt there is anyone on this entire site ( both of you and me included )  that if they found a way to play a machine in a way to always win that they wouldn't do so, if it was just playing the machine normally rather than using devices etc, so does that make us all scum?  I think not.

 

No fruit machine player has ever said these words  " I found a cheat on that machine to win every time I play it, Im going to contact the manufacturer at the soonest opportunity to tell them so they can correct it "

 

 

As for the errors, from my many years experience many cheats are actually found by accident while playing the machine, I know this from finding a few myself over the years, from silly ones worth a few quid to major ones.

 

Also final software isn't down to one person and if someone was to put in a bug in deliberately even if it wasn't found before release once it was they would be in big hot water eg  job gone and jail time most likely.

 

 

As for the community games, I have never been a fan due to some of the issues you have already raised, for example the community wins are all paid for by contributions, so effectively short term you could win less or more of your contributed share, not really fair in many regards.

 

Finally,  token machines had no cheats ??  you kidding they were rife back then, 

 

the 777 heaven one being the biggest of that era due to the sheer volume of machines around, making hundreds and  hundreds a day  in todays money  thousands!

 

Just my "10p's"  worth  nothing personal. <<<<<  ( like what I did there    )   hint clue to cheat....

 

Steve

Hi Steve

 

I did not call anyone thieving scum!

I just said it is theft and petty theft at that.

In terms of the bug/error in the community games which covered a lot of games-gangs of thieves were trailing the country and taking 10's of thousands out of the community games.

One such arcade not far from me was done over in just two days, from just three £70 linked community games they stole just short of £12,000!

I know these are xtreme cases and I do not put all players in the same light.

I also say and reiterate there are bad arcades too,who grind the percentages so low that it is nigh on impossible to win!

Sadly I don't recall any cheats in any slot machines I played as I was so hooked on the ruddy things.

All I wanted to do was play and unfortunately through my addiction I lost just over £50,000 in a two year period and for those who read my post,back then there were no community £70,£100 or £500 games-the top jackpot was £15 and they still took a lot of money.

Different topic altogether but I do (post my addiction days),wonder with today's gambling pushed in our faces daily and with bigger and higher jackpots and stakes,what impact that has on gamblers and what debt people accumulate-it is such a sad illness that governments still,to there detriment ignore.

 

Jay

Edited by gemini17, 01 December 2015 - 08:35 PM.

[jackpotjon05]

At the end of the day, no matter what any of you have said...............

 

These games are being ruined because people are scamming machines and it's not on.......end of.

 

Ok Fruitman 69, you have a point about no gambler has ever said ''I'll go contact the manufacturer'' but when you are scamming 1000's, then it's a bit different to playing a £5 jackpot or ''token'' machine. It goes TOO far when people start ripping arcades off 1000's of pounds.

 

Ok they have bad percentages and take a few quid off you, big deal.

 

The moral of the story............... Play machines for fun, have a laugh and enjoy them. That's what it's all about.

 

Unfortunately certain individuals who ''yes'' are thieving scum (there I said it) RUIN the fun for EVERYBODY else.

 

So thanks all the scammers for doing what you did, you have ruined many players fun (including mine) and if you can't play machines without manipulating the system, then please, stop being so selfish and worrying about your pockets and play the system fair like everybody else.

 

At the end of the day, only a few benefit from this and yet 10's of 1000's lose out, thanks.

Edited by jackpotjon05, 02 December 2015 - 11:37 PM.

[chasnbons]

 

Unfortunately certain individuals who ''yes'' are thieving scum (there I said it) RUIN the fun for EVERYBODY else.

 

 

 

I have to agree with this sentence, but imho it's the manufacturers and the gambling commission, who are guilty of this nowadays, NOT the players.

 

Basically what you're saying is, it's ok for them to rob everybody blind to the tune of millions of pounds a week, but if someone finds an emptier, glitch or something to give them more of a chance, it's not ok for them to get their own back.

 

If they release things with bugs in them, someone somewhere, will pick up on it and take them for what they can.  

 

Maybe things should be tested more before release, instead of just churning out updates with even less chance of players winning?

 

Just in case you're wondering, I'm not now and never was, in 'the know', on how the Community Game scam worked, if I had have been, I might have had a healthier bank balance than I have now

[TommyC]

Sorry jon but the statement play the system fair is null, void.  Arcade owners have no interest in being fair! You play shit % s or shit profiles just to take that little more off the player. Quicksilver and nobles are both guilty of this. If you want a decent game for your money then get down to reelfruits.

[jackpotjon05]

Very true Tommy, I think Dave is probably THE only and one place that's straight these days.

 

Yes, Quicksilver and Nobles are dodgy as hell, which is why I went once and have never returned to this day and never will.

 

Don't get me wrong, we have all found cheats and LITTLE ways to make a few quid (and I do mean only a few quid)

 

but it just annoys me that games people really love (like myself) are only ''half'' of a game and that ruins it by quite a degree.

 

You are probably right Chasnbons, it is down to the manufacturers, but please don't anybody tell me that the people on the inside, don't let their dirty little secrets to the outside, because I am 99% certain that is what goes on.

 

It's funny how you and me and many others never hear about these cheats, until it's too late and yet people are out there doing it every day..........

 

Tell me that is sheer coincidence, or is somebody on the inside giving out the information, for a few ''grand'' in their pockets?

 

I mean, why not....................If you designed the machines for a poxy salary per annum, why wouldn't you get your friends in on the information and make a few quid out of it?

 

I'm sure many would.

Edited by jackpotjon05, 03 December 2015 - 02:45 PM.