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[NickYerPesos]

Hey There Guys,

Been a while since making a proper post. 

Just thought id give you a run up. Moved from a shitty flat with my wife and 5 months old child and moved into a lovely 2 bed house, And Found a New Job.. Im no longer rolling with the Tesco crowd. 

I now work from a big Fruit Machine/Pool Table Company. They're a nice big company, So job security is good (yes i know.. cant be 100%.. just look at comet :S  ) 

But yeh. So I know work in the technician workshop.. fixing fruit machines and b3's.. Running them up ready to be sited in pubs and clubs. 

Anyone who has followed me on youtube or seen one of my videos, or even seen me piping up and trying to give advice here or at my own forum, Will know that I Eat, Sleep and Breath Machines.

I have always got machines in my garage, workshop and even my nan in laws garage Lol. Just purely to get them running and finding a proud new owner.

So yeh, Pretty much dream come true..

 

So yeh if you guys need any spares or help or whatever.. Ill do my best.. There's sometimes old parts floating about that never get used that I could ask to have.

 

Right well gotta go... Lunch break over lol.

 

Take it easy guys

 

Nick

[rocky100]

Good luck in your new job nick and keep up with the YouTube videos as some have been really helpful.

Edited by rocky100, 28 November 2013 - 02:21 PM.

[Bencrest]

 

So yeh if you guys need any spares or help or whatever.. Ill do my best.. There's sometimes old parts floating about that never get used that I could ask to have.

 

 

 

Sounds like you are enjoying it - I certainly enjoyed working in a large arcade 5 years ago (can't believe it's been that long!).

 

Be a bit careful about asking for spare parts though - not only because employers might get a little suspicious, but also due to the Gambling Commission clamping down on things these days. It's a noble thing to try and help people here, but you don't want to end up shooting yourself in the foot over it!

[aaamusements]

Sounds like you are enjoying it - I certainly enjoyed working in a large arcade 5 years ago (can't believe it's been that long!).
 
Be a bit careful about asking for spare parts though - not only because employers might get a little suspicious, but also due to the Gambling Commission clamping down on things these days. It's a noble thing to try and help people here, but you don't want to end up shooting yourself in the foot over it!

I wouldn't worry about that, the only parts that you can't sell without a license are ROMS/software and possibly stake/prize and percentage keys.

[NickYerPesos]

Bloody gambling commission.. Such killjoys lol.

[jon2007]

what did u do at tesco nick

[NickYerPesos]

I was stock control for a few years then moved to fruit and veg

[Bencrest]

I'm a tactical canned replenishment technician... OK, I'm a night shift shelf stacker

 

I actually quite like my job - cans, then a bit of fresh, then produce. Does me good, lost loads of weight and put on some muscle, especially on my biceps. I wonder if anyone has noticed me bicep curling the trays of potatoes at night yet?

Edited by Bencrest, 01 December 2013 - 05:15 PM.

[nails]

 

Sounds like you are enjoying it - I certainly enjoyed working in a large arcade 5 years ago (can't believe it's been that long!).

 

Be a bit careful about asking for spare parts though - not only because employers might get a little suspicious, but also due to the Gambling Commission clamping down on things these days. It's a noble thing to try and help people here, but you don't want to end up shooting yourself in the foot over it!

gaming commission dont give two hoots about parts m8ty

[aaamusements]

gaming commission dont give two hoots about parts m8ty

 

I have already said pretty much the same, I don't know if anyone actually read it though. I seem to end up having to bust the same old myths regarding the Gambling Act on some forum or other on a regular, probably monthly basis.

[NickYerPesos]

That's good then.. Got plenty of them..

[Bencrest]

The issues seem to arise because the Gambling Commission can't come up with a policy that makes sense to machine collectors / enthusiasts?

 

I can't buy ROMs for a 20 year old machine, or a 20 year old machine from a collector - but can buy hoppers, noteys, mainboards, and infact whole working machines which are in current circulation? 

 

I just can't understand they way they operate, it defies logic. It seems to play into the hands of 'dodgy' operators but screw collectors at every turn. 

 

My main point though wasn't about the GC, it was about Nick not getting himself in hot water with his employer. I mean if I ran a machine supply business, and someone just started and was asking me about buying / selling parts, I'd be a little wary. There was a local example where a technician from a local machine operator was running machines in pubs himself without permits, using spares from his workplace. Not naming the operator but I know the person involved.

[NickYerPesos]

Cheers Ben. I know what you mean. Luckily my new boss is someone who I've been friends with for a few years and I used to buy old spares (locks/bulbs etc) from him for his coffee fund..
Cheers for your concern though

[aaamusements]

Sorry, I'm not trying to be obtuse or derail this thread - apologies to Nick - however as someone who has studied the subject in detail for years and now knows the law better than some Gambling Commission employees, I feel that where misunderstandings and misinterpretations arise I have to correct them, for the sake of all involved.

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The issues seem to arise because the Gambling Commission can't come up with a policy that makes sense to machine collectors / enthusiasts?

 

The GC has never been expected or obliged to make policy - all it does is interpret and enforce legal statute made by the government at the time, this includes enthusiasts by default as no distinction was made at the time. I don't envy them the thankless task of trying to regulate the industry, while also being obliged to keep on top of all the traders masquerading as collectors (yes, they are out there).

 

I can't buy ROMs for a 20 year old machine, or a 20 year old machine from a collector - but can buy hoppers, noteys, mainboards, and infact whole working machines which are in current circulation? 

 

No, you can't SELL roms for any age of machine, nor can you sell a complete gambling machine - especially not one in current circulation - without the correct license or permit. This is because:

1. Roms and software are the parts that definitely "Affect the outcome of the game". Other parts (with arguable exceptions) do not and so you can sell them freely.

2. You can't SELL any gambling machine of any age, because it is and always will be a gambling machine even when it is effectively obsolete. The Act does not make any provision for age and it could be problematic if it did do so.

 

You CAN still legally buy any part of, or complete gambling machine, it only becomes a criminal offense if you then use that item other than in accordance within the law.

 

I just can't understand they way they operate, it defies logic. It seems to play into the hands of 'dodgy' operators but screw collectors at every turn. 

 

"Dodgy operators" are often taken to court, if you can find me any case where a genuine collector was actually prosecuted I will climb onto my roof and read from 50 shades of Gray through a load-hailer, until such time as the police come and remove me.

 

My main point though wasn't about the GC, it was about Nick not getting himself in hot water with his employer. I mean if I ran a machine supply business, and someone just started and was asking me about buying / selling parts, I'd be a little wary. There was a local example where a technician from a local machine operator was running machines in pubs himself without permits, using spares from his workplace. Not naming the operator but I know the person involved.

 

This is exactly why some operators will skip machines rather than sell or give them away - they are cautious of unlicensed buyers selling them on or using them illegally, and getting them into trouble as a result. It's very easy to see their point.

 

I always encourage everyone to do the same thing that I did, and read the statute and guidance notes directly from the Gambling Act 2005:

http://www.legislati...005/19/contents

The publications, guidance and advice pages on the GC website are also useful as they detail the interpretation of the law as enforced by the GC:

http://www.gamblingc...nce__advic.aspx

 

Again, I apologise for being dogmatic but I do believe that people should be aware of the correct details of a law that might affect them, and not a version perpetuated by Ebay, online Chinese whispers and continuing reference in some cases to previous, superseded law - usually dating from the 1960s!

 

I'm always happy to answer questions - time permitting and in complete confidence - regarding any concerns that people might have regarding the legality of any activity that they are engaged in or might be considering.