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#1 klompy

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 01:45 PM

This is the update version of pitfall Classic.

Hi & Lo now works normal.
Lamps are corrected

Here is the zip...

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#2 ziggy

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 06:44 PM

Just wondering what emulator this ran on ?

Are the roms in with the classic layout as well ?

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#3 GaryMPU34

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 06:50 PM

Empire do not allow any emulation of their machines now. Also in any case this machine was never on the list of approved machines.

Can this file and any other version please be removed?

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 06:59 PM

I guess that means its an Empire realease then.

I have always wondered, why have Empire games taken this approach anycase ? I mean do they really think of it as a major threat to their income ? Or hasnt their game platform changed yet and they are still usuing mpu4 technology ?

Most Empire awp's i have seen about ( very, very few i may add ) are pretty dire to say the least.

Dont they just do 5p/£5 machines now anyway ( aimed at kiddies no doubt ) !

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 07:07 PM

This is the update version of pitfall Classic.

Hi & Lo now works normal.
Lamps are corrected

Here is the zip...



There's no ROM or sound files! Is there another DL with these?

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 07:09 PM

Empire do not allow any emulation of their machines now. Also in any case this machine was never on the list of approved machines.

Can this file and any other version please be removed?



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#7 ziggy

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 07:19 PM

If he does work for them he shouldnt worry,as there are no roms for the layout.Unless........................................

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 07:22 PM

If he does work for them he shouldnt worry,as there are no roms for the layout.Unless........................................



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#9 GaryMPU34

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 08:23 PM

I guess that means its an Empire realease then.

I have always wondered, why have Empire games taken this approach anycase ? I mean do they really think of it as a major threat to their income ? Or hasnt their game platform changed yet and they are still usuing mpu4 technology ?

Most Empire awp's i have seen about ( very, very few i may add ) are pretty dire to say the least.

Dont they just do 5p/£5 machines now anyway ( aimed at kiddies no doubt ) !


Empire used to support the scene 100% and allowed MOST of their older machines to be emulated, even helping out with resources and roms with a dedicated section on their website. The romsets which were not allowed to be released were leaked by someone which upset them but the final straw was the leaking of the JPM emulator tools and roms for their newer machines, along with the hosting of EVERY rom off JPMs BBS on a web site. After this action they no longer wanted to be associated in any way with FME and withdrew all support and permissions to emulate their machiens

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 11:16 PM

I firmly believe emulation of fruit machine should be kept in the main to reproduce classic machines of the past,whether that be 15 years ago or 5 years ago.I dont think it really should matter that we can access jpm games such as Cracker, Do you feel lucky, Tomb Raider ect, ect ,as to be fair there aint many jpm machines in the market anyway,and this isnt due to emulation.Jpm struggled to sell many units on the whole as a result of demand.

Keeping to the point, i agree in what you say, but on the other hand if we could emulate all the machines currently on the market( mpu5, ect) do you think it would kill the whole awp scene for good.Do you think nobody would bother with them ?

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:25 AM

I firmly believe emulation of fruit machine should be kept in the main to reproduce classic machines of the past,whether that be 15 years ago or 5 years ago.I dont think it really should matter that we can access jpm games such as Cracker, Do you feel lucky, Tomb Raider ect, ect ,as to be fair there aint many jpm machines in the market anyway,and this isnt due to emulation.Jpm struggled to sell many units on the whole as a result of demand.

Keeping to the point, i agree in what you say, but on the other hand if we could emulate all the machines currently on the market( mpu5, ect) do you think it would kill the whole awp scene for good.Do you think nobody would bother with them ?



I don't think it would harm the AWP scene at all, for three reasons:

Firstly, I'm not talking about the very latest machines (SuperCharged; TopDog; HiFlyer; Dosh'n'Pecks, etc - they should quite rightly remain un-emulated FTTB!), I'm more interested in machines which are over 3 years old, such as Revolution; TempleOfTreasure; Thunderbird; Spiker, etc - I already regard these machines as having nostalgic value, as they are not available to play any more, and the SFX and gameplay would bring back a veritable ton of memories for me - especially in their original chip - for instance, being able to initially gamble steps in Revolution;

Secondly, it's not like the whole of the gambling population knows about this site, how many members are there ATM - 9,015 out of over a million (and that's just the registered 'problem' gamblers, according to GamAnon!)? And how many members write to this forum? I think I can recall only about 10 specific names...not much of a percentage of all the gamblers in the UK who don't have a problem, or at least don't think they have a problem...

Thirdly, even if a current machine was emulated, all the mfr's would have to do would be to issue an already prepared re-chip - and they do this anyway!


It shouldn't be the technology itself (ie MPU5) that is forbidden, just specific machine ROMs and layouts, ie the latest; I know this could be open to abuse, but then, in a supposedly free country, we have to take that as an acceptable risk, otherwise we may wake up one morning and find that, for example, possession of household bleach has suddenly been declared illegal, because the newspapers published a front-page story of how a toddler died screaming in agony after drinking some, and that all bleach-peddlers (who sell only to responsible adults) are now liable to be arrested and interrogated as to why they want to kill innocent little kiddies...

Anyway, I heard on the grapevine that someone actually DID write and compile an MPU5 emulator, but there is a conspiracy of silence as to who it is, where it is available, and what machines have been emulated with it...

BTW - JPM has gone down the gurgler purely cos their latest machines are CRAP - they just suck and suck until your wallet is just a shrivelled dried up corpse! £125 down the back of a Coliseum, and not so much as a tenner offered, that can't be right!
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Posted 02 December 2003 - 01:31 PM

BTW - JPM has gone down the gurgler purely cos their latest machines are CRAP - they just suck and suck until your wallet is just a shrivelled dried up corpse! £125 down the back of a Coliseum, and not so much as a tenner offered, that can't be right!


Couldn't agree more. 15 to 20 years ago, I would always head for the JPM or Barcrest machines as they had a great playability factor and were reasonably generous (as far as these things go). They seem to have gone way off line. Our pub has just got one called Vinda Loot which plays just like BFM's Gold Digger (or whatever it's called) ie like a pile of poo! Maybe it's because they also own Ace now who produce much more enjoyable machines (Euphoria, Cash Raider, Caesars Palace et. al.).

The question of emulate or not to emulate. It strikes me that all the manufacturers should seek medical help. They all seem to be suffering from big doses of Paranoia. Emulation will not kill off the fruit machine, because playing an emulator is not the same as playing the real thing. I still play fruit machines in pubs as much now as I did a year ago before I discovered the FME scene. Even if I could play 'up to date' emulations, it still would not change. There is no substitute for hearing all those pound coins clatter into the tray (well most of the time anyway :lol: ). Wouldn't it make more sense to look on the FME scene as cheap/free playtesters? Considering all the machines that have been released lately with bugs on them leading to re-chipping (eg. Pie Factory), it would make sense to get games thoroughly tested. It would also help them keep in touch with what the punters want from a machine rather than just releasing any old rubbish whether it's playable or not. This - in my opinion - is the single most contributing factor to the downturn in the FM market. Who wants to play a machine which time after time gives the feature board and then kills you virtually straight away at about £1.00/£1.20/£1.60? Where's the fun in that?

Manufacturers should stop blaming this, that and the other and produce machines people want to play and have a fair chance of winning rather than the current crop which have no game play and rob you blind for most of the time.

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 02:49 PM

Wouldn't it make more sense to look on the FME scene as cheap/free playtesters? Considering all the machines that have been released lately with bugs on them leading to re-chipping (eg. Pie Factory), it would make sense to get games thoroughly tested. It would also help them keep in touch with what the punters want from a machine rather than just releasing any old rubbish whether it's playable or not.


Wonderful - we could ask the mfr's to pick a select few of us to be the most genuine Beta-testers available for the next batch of fruities with £1m jacky's (according to recent news reports :mrgreen:) - the payoff from the mfr's would be for us few to know how to play a machine before it is 'released into the wild'... :twisted:

Of course, we should sign a declaration (a bit like the Official Secrets Act) promising to keep this info to ourselves - otherwise, the Beta testers would end up being emulated by the punters! :tellme:
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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:58 PM

Going back to the subject of Empire machine, quite a few people around the FME forums will proabably have the dx of Pitfall and Crossfire. Pitfall is pants, but Crossfire is ok.

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 01:07 PM

Going back to the subject of Empire machine, quite a few people around the FME forums will proabably have the dx of Pitfall and Crossfire. Pitfall is pants, but Crossfire is ok.



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