Along comes the living proof and reality of why this thread has developed the way it has.
3 words say it all in the last post, "no donations" and "grab".
Well done, at least your attitude and practices have shown us why machine base is a bad idea after all.
I guess people with money problems who have a pc or laptop (higher end), internet connection, etc etc to run mfme obviously can't part with a fiver at least to support a chosen fruit site?
Let's just grab all we can and as much as we can, giving no support or anything constructive back. Nice.
It is just strange to read comments and statements that are so far from the truth it is bizarre.
There is speaking one's own mind and it being taken seriously if the spoken words are factually correct.
Again you state, "what i am saying is that all layouts should be freely available to everybody without incurring any cost whatsoever..." They are !!! How many more times?
"If people would rather get their layouts and "CIRCUMVENT" websites, then why shouldn't they? ,that's the sort of thing that "impacts" and has "mamed" the scene IMO."
Do you understand what you are saying? If these websites become unused and unwanted, where will layouts etc be uploaded to? Where will they be hosted for "circumvention" software to be used?
I thoroughly understand the "it is my layout and work." attitude. May i request you put a few days/weeks into making a quality DX layout, then see people selling it as a package online, making money from your work and see how it feels.
If this is how you feel, then you are sadly in the wrong place i am afraid.
If they "Donate", they get extra privileges such as being able to download "X" amount of layouts in a session or access paid members areas. No Charges are forcably being made!
I think you have your facts confused here, as you say, "No Question!".
You state, "I left the scene many years ago after i paid for a set of reelbands for a certain machine,One of the high ranking members on fruit forums pm'd me about borrowing the reelbands to scan,and I out of the goodness of my heart sent them to him and they were never returned now that pissed me off,SEE THE GREED THERE?,I come back to check the scene and notice charges were being made,donations etc etc.To me that says its about money! No Question!"
Many years ago.... But you say the scene has NOW become greedy ?? Could you explain?
You seem to have had a personal issue of theft with another person "many years ago", that is nothing to do with the FME scene, that is not the FME scene's fault, nor can it be blamed for individual circumstances.
I still fail to see where the above issue is "greed" ? It isn't greed, it is pure selfishness by one person, at the worst, theft.
Selfishness will never change. I have become more selfish over the last few years. I have sourced many,many machine roms/resources, buying them, borrowing them for the scene. Unfortunately when i have asked for things i want, several times, the excuses roll from tongues with the greatest of ease. These things i requested are buried, at the back of the shed, need rooting out, the dog is guarding them, etc etc. You can imagine where i am coming from. It has got to the extent now where i thought, haha, no more. What i source now is mine and..... others who i look to with respect that help and like to be helped.
My final note on this is that FME involves no monetary requirements whatsoever. People can download the emulator and the games completely free of charge. They don't have to pay to join "most" FME sites, other than to enhance their level and download more items in a period of time.
You are so wrong with what you say Bungle, maybe the name is a reflection although i hope not..
It was a rushed uncommunicated project that has become derailed. The idea of circumventing the emulation sites for downloads was the first failure.
Not sure why someone made them comment, where the "greed" is shining through? This again makes no sense. It is for the love of the scene that people host these sites where hopefully others can come, download a game, play it and leave feedback for the creator. If they wish to stick around the scene and help it grow, a small donation is made to unlock member privileges that allows more frequent downloading of machines. These donations pay for the hosting and upkeep of the sites.
There is no greed, no money making, no profit. No one is held to ransom.
Nothing will be gained from software that enables anyone to take from these sites without such as a hello, thank you or goodbye. How will this keep the scene moving forward?
This software could bring "greedy" people out of the woodwork as it would enable them to mass download, place onto other media and possibly advertise for sale on auction sites..... profiteering from others work.
Maybe something can be incorporated into the sites security to stop software such as this enabling mass downloads etc without joining .
If the hosting sites and forums are not around, the scene dies or ends up going (back) underground which will be no benefit to anyone just taking their first steps into FME.