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[stanmarsh14]

Got one at mine with the original CRT, and it's behaving absolutely fine, but the one chuzzy has with the LCD conversion is deffo not!

Situ I currently have, is trying to get it on to 10p play, but run as £4 all cash, and for the life of me, I have pretty much tried everything I could, even copying the same settings from mine in reference to dip settings (Mine is also on £4 / 10p), but no matter if I use either his or my game card (Both mention on the bootup screen, that they are switchable), it refuses to comply, and ends up on either 5p / £4, or 10p / £8.

I've also looked high and low to see if there is a cash / token switch in the back like you get with some earlier mpu4 barcrest's, but I can not see anything that would relate to such a thing (My machine is the same also).

Just to note, when either game cards are fitted in to mine, I can get the £4 / 10p set up no problem, but chuzzy's one I can not.

I do remember briefly getting the 10p and 20p token / £8 game to appear on mine, but for the life of me I can not remember how I did it (Not that I really want this option on mine anyway).

It's got to be something daft I am missing here..... any ideas?

(Some screenshots of dip settings from mine which I copied over on to chuzzy's).

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[richy1976]

Are you swapping both game cards?, the one out of the video board as well, still maybe locked with software.

Got rid of my monte a few months ago (scrapped it), it was on £4 10p & I changed it to £8 20p cash on the dils.

[stanmarsh14]

Reply to one of the posts from a member at MPU Mecca, which I think may point to what I was thinking the other day.....

John, checked high and low, and far as I can see, there is deffo no cash / token switch, unless it's hidden somewhere on the dips, but far as I can see from the tech guide, there is no such thing on the DIP's.

As for faulty dips, you are about the 3rd person to mention this, and although the daft auld bugger is adamant it's not the dip's, I've had a gut feeling all along after all the other checks I have done, that this could very well be the issue, so think what I will do, is borrow my MPU4 MOD4 unit, try that, and prove / remove doubt, whatever happens.

I doubt anything on the video side would have anything to do with stakes / prizes, as I think it's all on the ROM cards (For stake / prize), especially after folks have informed me that there are some non switchable ROM's about.

[stanmarsh14]

Are you swapping both game cards?, the one out of the video board as well, still maybe locked with software.

Got rid of my monte a few months ago (scrapped it), it was on £4 10p & I changed it to £8 20p cash on the dils.

 

Tried BOTH game cards in mine, and both work fine, and will set up no problem on 10p / £4, but on chuzzy's one, it will refuse to do this particular setting.

[richy1976]

The graphics software on the video board controls the price of play etc, if it hasn't got graphics for £8 it wont switch, there are different versions of software.

[stanmarsh14]

The graphics software on the video board controls the price of play etc, if it hasn't got graphics for £8 it wont switch, there are different versions of software.

 

I have my doubts this is the case... I still feel the control for the stakes / prize is done at the non-video rom end, but again what I will do like with the main MPU4 MOD4 unit, is take the video card with me and try it, so I can prove one way or another, that this is at fault or not.

One interesting thing about Chuzzy's unit, we did briefly manage to get it in to £4 / 10p mode, but because his version of the game played like a bag of nails (A few regs also commented on this, noting he has the arcade version of the software, where mine is the single site version), changed it to 5p / £4, and folks seamed ok with that, but now he's trying my card, ideally we need to get this on to £4 / 10p, with the aim of improving cash box takings.

[fuzion]

Ideally 'Release B' set on 5p £4 jackpot plays a great all round game (we don't have this version as far as I am aware).  Later versions really tightened up game control and pretty much stifled any kind of player edge.   Great machines in their day and are still very popular.

 

PS If anyone ever comes across a Monte Carlo or Gold Rush set to 5p £3 jackpot, please contact me, I will offer a good price for a copy of the game board roms.

 

J

 

Has to be £3 jackpot.

Edited by fuzion, 23 September 2014 - 10:09 AM.

[richy1976]

Did I see base art for this somewhere already made?.
If not I got the glasses for the tall cabinet.

[fuzion]

Yes, I think Ploggy had some prepped for mfme v4. Obviously that didn't pan out too good unfortunately. Not sure if it was flyer based.

J

[Guitar]

The cash switch on normal BWB's is a matrix switch, so it's possible there is no switch and the loom is hard wired for that setting? From memory it's switch 20 or 21 on Normal MPU4, of course if it is a switch issue then the Video setup may be totally different.

 

Give me a few months and I can probably help you out a bit once I get this emulated. I'd be interested to know what the issue is if you fix it.

[fuzion]

The MPU4 rom comes in many flavours with different settings depending on site.  Switchable, fixed etc.  It's all on the MPU4 rom.   I know as I've edited these roms to change from fixed price to switchable also variable or fixed % roms are available. 

 

 

 

J

Edited by fuzion, 08 July 2016 - 07:50 PM.

[fuzion]

*The roms are unprotected much like the video roms.

 

J

[Guitar]

The MPU4 rom comes in many flavours with different settings depending on site.  Switchable, fixed etc.  It's all on the MPU4 rom.   I know as I've edited these roms to change from fixed price to switchable also variable or fixed % roms are available. 

 

 

 

J

 

I think the problem he is describing is putting the same ROM cart in 2 different machines and getting different results. So the ROM isn't changing, but the MPU and loom is.

[fuzion]

I've never had issues with any that are switchable or fixed, it states on boot up if it can be switched or not. Probably a pic would tell a story.

PS Just noticed this is an old thread 😏

J