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The worst thing about the 'twisting it for their own ends' part is that on every occasion, they hide behind the scene. Saying that they are doing it for the scene. I'll save the scene from dying. The scene needs this ect... At the end of the day, it isn't about helping the scene at all. As we are sat here with nothing anymore from CW. So thats how much it has helped us all here. It's all about self preservation. Trying to make a name for themselves.
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Sometimes though it must have actually being to protect the scene. There have been a few close calls regarding legal action. Whilst all of us here do like
FME, if it was your money on the line, would you really risk it for something that, whilst you enjoy it a lot, its something you do for free. Imagine Barcrest, or even worse IGT knocking at your door.
The thing that seems to get forgotten is that the emulators are free, when all is said and done, if IGT knocked at my door tomorrow and told me to stop I'd have to consider it very carefully. Not that its likely mind you, but I am just saying.
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We can speculate on what we 'could have won' if this scene was the type of thing that accepted and supported the emulator creators. The scene it should have been. Maybe we'd have a newer emulator that enabled us to make Project and Sp.Ace games without having to go back and forth between MFME2 and MFME3. Maybe theres members out there who would have a go at doing more Sp.Ace stuff. I was certainly in that category, although I gave up because of the complications of it all. For nothing more than feeling a bit of a nuisance having to ask Pete W to put in a matrix many times per single layout.
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You get out of this life, what you put in.
The scene has pulled together on many occasions, rescuing many a non working machine from the scrap heap. Getting resources, group buys, the list goes on...
If, as a whole we can work towards something, then anything is possible. FMEF *WILL* one day be as good or better than anything that came before. It will take years, just like the others did, but it will do everything, and then some.
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Is there Red Gaming emulation? Has this been done? Is there disk reel support for MPU 5/S4? I reckon CW has a moral dilemma really. He keeps quiet, and we'll never know. Simply becoming more impatient. Whilst he says something, and it's baiting, or showing off. Do those who have a later emulator have someone, part of their group of 'haves', who is good enough to make cracking DX's to play these games on? Do they download the scenes layouts? When everything eventually goes dead, will we be fed some tit-bits to spur the scene into a frenzy of layout creating once again? For the scene, or for the group of 'haves'? Or has CW been silenced by the manufacturers? Wether legally or with a financial incentive?
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CW always said we would get MPU5 / S4 when they were dead techs. Maybe when they actually fall by the wayside we'll see his return. I don't know the guy, I've never met him, this is all just speculation, but credit where it is due, he did an awful lot for the scene despite the bickering and everything else that goes on in
fme land.
Has he been silenced by the manufacturers, probably not. If he was going to be silenced by the manufacturers we probably wouldnt have seen MPU34 or whatever was released first.
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The worst thing is that this type of talk only serves to alienate both sides from one another even more. It harbours rumors that don't do anyone any good at all. A simple few words to say that there is no more. No more releases, no more emulators, just to know where things stand. That we know the score. Even now, after all that has transpired over the years, and with the deafening silence from CW, theres still thousands of us here holding out some hope that things may one day roll forward once again.
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Well, it doesn't matter anyway. At some point in the next year I will learn to use C++ properly, once that happens FMEF will be just as quick as MFME, getting rid of the major issue for future emulation of newer machines.
If he doesn't come back, then just wait for a bit and eventually FMEF will catch up to where MFME left off and then onwards we go.
On the other hand if he comes back and releases something to compete with it, how f**king awesome will the next MFME be.
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Does this stalemate lead us to not be so enthusiastic in collecting resources? Why collect resources for possible future 'tech' additions when we have no idea they will ever be included and released to the masses? We were given a little glimmer of hope though some time ago with the suggestion of a version of the emulator that would do away with the 'Sp.Ace' malarky, and even with a fix or two, possibly being released. Wether this is on the cards, who knows. Would this be the 'final' MFME? The finished product of what we basically already have?
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Its not a stalemate any more, get collecting resources, the futures bright, the future's oran..never mind.
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All the emulator creators have been shat on in one way or another. It's hard to believe that people could do such a thing. After all, these are the people that gave us a common hobby. Why we are all here. Do we deserve anything at all? Any dialogue? Any new releases? We all know whats wrong with the scene. We all know what needs to be done to make it move forward once again. And right now, we as a scene, well, we don't have the ball in our side of the court at the moment. CW is holding it. But we've no idea wether he still has it in his hands, or wether he's stabbed it with some scissors, deflated it for good, and discarded it into the dustbin.
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Does the scene deserve anything, that depends on whether the lessons have been learned from the mistakes. The only two active fruit machine emulators left are both open source, so no-one holds the power so much. Ok I have said that I will not open source the encryption techniques for the online play, but thats not so I hold the power, its to try and prevent cheating.
Maybe he has deflated the ball, but the scene definately has a puncture repair kit and a pump. It might not last several of these attacks, but it can be brought back this time. Thats the best I could do, sorry.
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